Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/George Andrews Reserve

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Fails GNG and GEOFEAT. Except a single external link to the obviously non-RS and rotten My Space link, this article is completely unsourced. My before search found trivial mentions (e.g., [https://dandenong.starcommunity.com.au/sport/2023-08-08/city-to-play-friendly-against-thunder/ 1]) and non-SIGCOV listings (e.g., from the [https://www.greaterdandenong.vic.gov.au/our-environment/open-spaces/george-andrews-reserve local council]). As such, I am proposing a redirect to Dandenong Thunder SC. However, a previous BLAR was contested (see history), and a previous incorrect A7 tag was declined, so AfD is better than BLARing again. I am surprised that this also passed NPP. VickKiang (talk) 02:37, 20 September 2023 (UTC)

• Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Football-related deletion discussions. VickKiang (talk) 02:37, 20 September 2023 (UTC)
• Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Architecture and Australia. Skynxnex (talk) 04:34, 20 September 2023 (UTC)
• Redirect as suggested. Article doesn't currently meet GNG and I can't find any substantial sources. MarchOfTheGreyhounds 09:27, 20 September 2023 (UTC)
• Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related deletions. GiantSnowman 19:02, 20 September 2023 (UTC)
• Redirect to Dandenong Thunder SC as possible search term. GiantSnowman 19:04, 20 September 2023 (UTC)
• Keep Badly constructed article, as the article should be about the whole reserve, the nominator posted the link [https://www.greaterdandenong.vic.gov.au/our-environment/open-spaces/george-andrews-reserve] which shows this should be a WP:GEONATURAL, WP:GEOPURP article. Article needs a total rewrite. Govvy (talk) 21:06, 20 September 2023 (UTC)
• :But both GEONATURAL and GEOPURP still require proper sources, which we're still not seeing. The link there is a database listing from the local government, so doesn't really count for anything. MarchOfTheGreyhounds 23:02, 20 September 2023 (UTC)
• :I do not think WP:GEONATURAL applies since this appears to be a sports reserve with mainly artificial features outlined in the facilities ({{tq|Basketball Court, Pavilion,Picnic Area, Playground, Public toilet, Soccer Fields, Tennis Court}}), so IMO GEOFEAT applies more, which requires a GNG pass, instead applies. I agree that natural reserves and natural parks should be evaluated using GEONATURAL, but this is not one of that case. VickKiang (talk) 00:27, 21 September 2023 (UTC)
• ::I take it you've not been down there, seen the trail, woodland, birds, wildlife etc? It's a massive area. Govvy (talk) 08:00, 21 September 2023 (UTC)
• :::How is the fact that I've not been down there relevant? (btw I had a look at Google Maps at a scale of 200m and got a completely different impression that it's a "huge area"). But in any case, reliable sourcing meeting SIGCOV is required to meet both GNG, GEOFEAT, and even if we apply GEONATURAL the sourcing I can find are IMO inadequate. Thanks. VickKiang (talk) 00:59, 22 September 2023 (UTC)
• ::::Even if we do apply GEONATURAL, that doesn't guarantee notability. It just says these features are often notable. MarchOfTheGreyhounds 07:52, 23 September 2023 (UTC)

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