Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Gigantis, the Fire Monster

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Seems unnecessary. Gigantis, the Fire Monster is already covered in detail at the Godzilla Raids Again article, in the American version subsection. Gigantis was just a shorter English dubbed version of Godzilla Raids Again. It wasn't a "heavily localized" version like Godzilla, King of the Monsters! or Godzilla 1985 were; those had some Japanese footage removed in favor of new US-produced footage that was inserted for the US release, as well as the original director's intent altered by the Americans.

But Gigantis doesn't have that -- at least not to a severe degree. Both Godzilla Raids Again and Gigantis are practically the same film, save for some minor creative liberties in the English dub's dialogue. It seems like overkill to dedicated a whole article to an English dub that has minimal coverage that, again, is already covered in detail in another article.

If additional proof is needed of the article's lack of importance, no one's edited on that article since 2006. Even it's own creator, Keratos2190, has been inactive since 2006 as well. I propose simply merging it with Godzilla Raids Again. Armegon (talk) 05:03, 20 April 2025 (UTC)

• Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Arts, Fictional elements, Science fiction and fantasy, and Film. Armegon (talk) 05:03, 20 April 2025 (UTC)

• Keep - When I looked through sources for this article, there were a lot of sources. These are the best ones I could find [https://www.theguardian.com/film/gallery/2014/jun/29/posters-godzilla] [https://daily.jstor.org/the-decades-of-double-features/] [https://www.mentalfloss.com/article/53467/time-george-takei-worked-godzilla] [https://nypost.com/2014/04/18/10-reasons-godzilla-is-king-of-the-movie-monsters/] [https://collider.com/godzilla-american-movie-ranked/] [https://www.metv.com/svengoolie/blog/a-gigantis-by-any-other-name-still-fells-a-street-godzilla-raids-again-tonight] [https://www.google.com.au/books/edition/Daikaiju_Giant_Monster_Tales/vevRQKegSO4C?hl=en&gbpv=1&dq=%22Gigantis,+the+Fire+Monster%22+-wikipedia&pg=PA352&printsec=frontcover]. Once again, this isn't just an WP:IDONTLIKEIT, it's an WP:IDONTLIKEWHOCREATEDIT. But also, not only is it an WP:IDONTLIKEIT, it's an WP:IDONTLIKEWHOISFIXINGIT. When I was exhausted from my first phase of reworking the article, I was expecting you to add more information and sources, but no, you're just nominating things for deletion. Do you actually have problems with my writing???? GojiraFan1954 (talk) 07:52, 20 April 2025 (UTC)
• :Now I'm onto my second phase of reworking the article. GojiraFan1954 (talk) 09:11, 20 April 2025 (UTC)
• Keep: a merge would be highly undue and the film meeting the requirements for notability, a standalone page is possible. I don’t understand this nomination. -Mushy Yank. 12:13, 20 April 2025 (UTC)
• Keep: Needs work, but is clearly independently notable. It is not a mere English dub of the original film. silviaASH (inquire within) 12:20, 20 April 2025 (UTC)
• Speedy Keep per WP:SK#3 and WP:SK#1 and speedy close per WP:SNOW. This does not sound like a AFD nomination. This feels like a rant on the subject itself. Plus, I'm certain nom did not do a proper WP:BEFORE. If you want to merge the article, kindly open a discussion on the talk page and not nominate the article on AFD. Warm Regards, Miminity (Talk?) (me contribs) 12:27, 20 April 2025 (UTC)
• :Exactly, that is what I was also thinking on my comment, this AfD is a rant, I completely agree. GojiraFan1954 (talk) 21:30, 20 April 2025 (UTC)

:Keep per above. This feels more fitting for a merge discussion, and while I normally advocate for keeping discussions to the AfD venue, I feel as though in this case this conversation would be better held at a merger, where independent notability can be more adequately discussed. Magneton Considerer: Pokelego999 (Talk) (Contribs) 16:11, 20 April 2025 (UTC)

• Keep The film certainly has some coverage, and I see more, at first glance on WP:BEFORE. Even if someone felt it wasn't enough for a separate article, I feel confident it would be at least enough for a merge. Either way, this article isn't right for deletion. Shooterwalker (talk) 15:50, 22 April 2025 (UTC)

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