Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Global Officials of Dignity Awards

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Part of a promotional walled garden. Lacks depth of coverage in independent reliable sources. Current bombardment of sources is non reliable sources, passing mentions and PR driven puff. duffbeerforme (talk) 08:01, 18 August 2015 (UTC)

• Keep. I have removed CNN iReport and added some more reliable sources which are in Arabic and Bengali. The recipients are mostly from India, Malaysia, The Philippines and other Asian and African countries, I don't think so the coverage in native languages could be brought here to support the subject's notability. And it is very difficult to guess whether those regional native publications are online presence; though if they are, it is very difficult to google them for others who don't know those languages.Kailasher (talk) 13:32, 18 August 2015 (UTC) — Kailasher (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. Note on SPA: I have created Campa Cola Compound Case and Saraswati Mandir High School.Kailasher (talk) 09:12, 24 August 2015 (UTC)
• :"Her works are mostly in..." But this article isn't about her. --Ronz (talk) 15:48, 18 August 2015 (UTC)
• ::Thanks, corrected.Kailasher (talk) 16:29, 18 August 2015 (UTC)
• :::You really shouldn't change your comments like that when someone has responded to them. --Ronz (talk) 16:51, 18 August 2015 (UTC)
• ::::I don't really think so, I have thanked you after the correction.Kailasher (talk) 17:08, 18 August 2015 (UTC)

::::::What is intended is that an editor leave the original, use a strikethrough, and then include the correction. That way the conversation does not confuse others. Schmidt, ^{Michael Q.} 17:35, 18 August 2015 (UTC)

::::::The following is the original version;

*Keep. I have removed CNN iReport and added some more reliable sources which are in Arabic and Bengali. Her works are mostly in India, Malaysia, The Philippines and other Asian and African countries, I don't think so the coverage in native languages could be brought here to support her notability. And it is very difficult to guess whether those regional native publications are online presence; though if they are, it is very difficult to google them for others who don't know those languages.Kailasher (talk) 13:32, 18 August 2015 (UTC)

::::::Thanks Michael.Kailasher (talk) 19:20, 18 August 2015 (UTC)

• Note. It appears the topic has [https://www.google.com/search?q=%22Global+Officials+of+Dignity+Awards%22+-wikipedia&num=50&source=lnms&tbm=nws&sa=X&ved=0CAcQ_AUoAWoVChMIvaKWiJWzxwIVhqWICh3Y-gov&biw=1024&bih=655 coverage and note enough] to meet WP:ORG. The article could benefit from some calming of tone, but an addressable issue is not a cause for deletion, nor are WP:NONENG sources. Schmidt, ^{Michael Q.} 17:35, 18 August 2015 (UTC)
• :I was going to make a note saying just the opposite, adding that there appears to be no notability at all separate from that of Maria Amor Torres. A redirect would be in order, if her article survives the AfD. --Ronz (talk) 20:30, 18 August 2015 (UTC)

:::Please elaborate your factors, then we know where we stand.Kailasher (talk) 20:34, 18 August 2015 (UTC)

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• Either Keep and expand and cleanup or, at a minimum, merge as an expanded section at its awarding organization We Care for Humanity. Sources need not be solely about the topic being discussed, just so long as they do provide more-than-trivial information. The awards receive just enough note to meet WP:N through [http://www.javanan.com/olympia-arts-and-family-film-awards-founder-antonio-gellini-and-president-allen-jay-friedman-honored-at-2nd-annual-god-awards Javanan Magazine], [http://www.sundaytimes.lk/140622/magazine/alston-koch-honoured-god-awards-103897.html Sunday Times], [http://www.modernghana.com/news/550079/1/justina-mutale-joins-queen-of-sheba-iii-to-address.html Modern Ghana], [http://www.thenigerianvoice.com/news/151219/1/justina-mutale-honoured-as-uk-h.html NIgerian Voice], [http://coldheatnews.com/archives/tag/global-officials-of-dignity-awards Cold heat News], [http://www.standard.co.uk/showbiz/celebrity-news/manisha-koirala-being-cancer-free-gave-me-an-opportunity-to-live-again-which-was-something-i-thought-10408545.html The Standard], [http://vancouver.24hrs.ca/ur/story/985614 24 Hours 1], [http://www.thestar.com.my/Metro/Focus/2015/02/06/For-humanitys-sake-Former-beauty-queen-visits-Malaysia-in-search-of-humanitarians-to-feature-in-her/ The Star], [http://www.thehindubusinessline.com/companies/award-for-srei-foundation-chairman/article7553844.ece The Hindu], [http://vancouver.24hrs.ca/events/1163477 24 Hours 2], and [http://www.godawards.com/press.html many others]. Schmidt, ^{Michael Q.} 12:10, 19 August 2015 (UTC)
• :They use their awards to promote themselves, and the press sometimes echos their press releases. This is trivia and soapboxing, specifically excluded by WP:N and WP:NOT and WP:NPOV. --Ronz (talk) 15:29, 20 August 2015 (UTC)
• ::That criticism is there everywhere, please read Nobel Prize controversies.Kailasher (talk) 09:53, 21 August 2015 (UTC)
• :::These aren't anything like the Nobel Prizes. Do take a look over WP:NOT, especially WP:SOAP and WP:NOTNEWS. --Ronz (talk) 15:40, 21 August 2015 (UTC)
• Keep: Per Schmidt. Yogesh Khandke (talk) 15:51, 19 August 2015 (UTC)
• Strong delete Sources are simply public relations pieces. Notability not met. WP:SOAP and WP:NOTNEWS violation. Redirect to Torres' article if it passes AfD. --Ronz (talk) 16:11, 23 August 2015 (UTC)

::Please rather than repeatedly making your claims of reliable sources into press releases, you instead take the authored article to WP:RSN to let other wiser heads offer their inputs.Kailasher (talk) 08:53, 24 August 2015 (UTC)

:::Please WP:FOC. If you're not interested in addressing the WP:BLP and WP:COPYVIO problems, leave them to those who will. --Ronz (talk) 14:44, 24 August 2015 (UTC)

• Keep Passes WP:GNGand Per Schmidt.122.174.17.183 (talk) 11:38, 24 August 2015 (UTC) — 122.174.17.183 (talk) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
• Merge, in concise manner, into the organization's article. The coverage cited isn't coverage so much of the award, which for all intents and purposes does not seem to be notable in its own right. I mean, it's fine to cite a reliable source like the 'Evening Standard'', but all it has to say on our subject is, [http://www.standard.co.uk/showbiz/celebrity-news/manisha-koirala-being-cancer-free-gave-me-an-opportunity-to-live-again-which-was-something-i-thought-10408545.html "Will you be attending the Global Officials of Dignity Awards at the UN headquarters in New York?" "Yes on August 6 and 7. I am looking forward to attending and I will probably give a small talk."] [http://nation.lk/edition/fine/people-and-events/item/39230-the-comeback-of-princess-maria-amor-in-sri-lanka.html This] apparent press release mentions the thing ("GOD") but doesn't even spell it out. No, notability requires in-depth coverage, not brief mentions in sometimes iffy publications; if there weren't a parent article this would be a clear case of delete. Drmies (talk) 15:01, 24 August 2015 (UTC)
• Update: I just deleted Maria Amor Torres as a promotional copyvio, and will vote delete on the "main" article, We Care for Humanity, which appears to be little more than a vanity club and is certainly not notable by our standards--and thus, we should also delete this thing here. Drmies (talk) 15:08, 24 August 2015 (UTC)

:Note: This debate has been included in the list of New York-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 18:50, 24 August 2015 (UTC)

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:Let's look at some recipients of these so called awards [http://www.godawards.com/1st-god-honorees.html].

::Mollywood Mcleim. Who? An Indonesian Celebrity Photographer. "Most important is her interaction with Maria Amor, whose nonprofits, Exotifit for Humanity, We Care for the World, and her professional networks , ’Are just like family’." "She visits thousands events, from those hosted at Hollywood’s “The W”, to 99% of Maria Amor’s functions." [http://mollywoodhollywood.com/about-us/].

::Sandra Baskh. Or is that Sandra Baksh. Who? Founder of Oohlala Divas. Would this award have anything to do with [http://ireport.cnn.com/docs/DOC-1060809 this] donation?

::Noah Dahl. Actor [http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1750737/]. No major parts. No indication of how he contributed to humanity significantly. No indication of why he "won"

::Brett Hunt. Aparently he is rendering a comedy/rap act for the homeless [http://concerttofeed.wecareforhumanity.org/1/post/2013/04/brett-hunt-a-master-showman-is-rendering-a-comedyrap-act-for-the-homeless.html]. [http://concerttofeed.wecareforhumanity.org/brochure.html] Funkalicious, Laci Kay, Athena Katalaris, Mellia Diehl, Look how many others from that 1st GOD honorees are involved here. Were the "nominated" for their participation here? Ahh! Look further down the brochure. Now we have it. "Hero Sponsor - $3000." "Receive Humanitarian Ambassador Award at the Global Officials of Dignity Awards". The "awards" are for sale.

:If I strike my afd nomination would I become an Ambassador? How much would it cost me to become a Prince? duffbeerforme (talk) 13:21, 25 August 2015 (UTC)

::Torres appears to be trying to build her organization through donations of time and money from past award winners. I've not looked closely to see if they are making the donations before or after receiving the awards, and my general impression is that it is the latter. It appears to be a vanity play on the award recipients, focusing on making the awards higher profile in each subsequent year. Combining that with Torres' princess persona, it doesn't look good. --Ronz (talk) 15:17, 25 August 2015 (UTC)

• Delete fails WP:BLASPHEMY GOD awards? Really.... Kraxler (talk) 16:05, 25 August 2015 (UTC)
• Delete. Non-notable. George Custer's Sabre (talk) 16:16, 25 August 2015 (UTC)
• Delete, the fact that one can buy one of these "awards" isn't very relevant, the fact that the sources presented in the article are all PR fluff or of dubious reliability is. Does not meet WP:N in my view. Lankiveil ^{(speak to me)} 13:06, 26 August 2015 (UTC).
• Delete - non RS sources, purely a promotional piece for a non-notable award. Onel5969 ^{TT me} 13:52, 26 August 2015 (UTC)
• Delete - not notable, sources are poor/passing mentions. Fyddlestix (talk) 15:29, 26 August 2015 (UTC)

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