Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Golddigger (film)

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The result was keep‎__EXPECTED_UNCONNECTED_PAGE__. Liz Read! Talk! 23:25, 18 April 2025 (UTC)

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Non-notable film. I was unable to find any significant coverage about it. WhoIsCentreLeft (talk) 19:20, 11 April 2025 (UTC)

  • Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Film and Television. WhoIsCentreLeft (talk) 19:20, 11 April 2025 (UTC)
  • Comment: I did find [https://www.google.com/books/edition/Moln%C3%A1r_Ferenc/aC_nAAAAMAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22Az+arany%C3%A1s%C3%B3%22+Mih%C3%A1ly+Kert%C3%A9sz&dq=%22Az+arany%C3%A1s%C3%B3%22+Mih%C3%A1ly+Kert%C3%A9sz&printsec=frontcover this mention], however it's only in snippet view so I can't see how in-depth it goes. Google translate does seem to suggest that it's likely a bit longer so could probably be used to help establish notability. I haven't checked in English yet, so there may be a bit more there. ReaderofthePack(formerly Tokyogirl79) (。◕‿◕。) 21:53, 11 April 2025 (UTC)
  • :I'm leaning towards a keep. According to [https://www.google.com/books/edition/Michael_Curtiz/mYI2DwAAQBAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&dq=%22Gold+digger%22+Michael+Curtiz&pg=PA15&printsec=frontcover this], the film did receive coverage back in the day - reviews were published in trades and film magazines. They were by fellow filmmakers and their friends, however the author makes it clear that this was probably a case of them being friendly to their peers since it wasn't a particularly cutthroat atmosphere at the time. In other words, they're most likely usable if one could find them and it's not a case of say, only Curtiz's friends writing reviews. ReaderofthePack(formerly Tokyogirl79) (。◕‿◕。) 22:09, 11 April 2025 (UTC)
  • ::At bare minimum this should redirect to the director's filmography page. But there does seem to be coverage, it just didn't make it onto the internet. ReaderofthePack(formerly Tokyogirl79) (。◕‿◕。) 22:12, 11 April 2025 (UTC)
  • :The linked snippet doesn't include anything useful, unfortunately. It says the film was written by Ferenc Molnár, lists the director and composer, and then moves on to other projects on which Molnár worked. hinnk (talk) 09:28, 13 April 2025 (UTC)
  • ::While this mention isn't pages long, it's what it says that's important. It specifically says that it received several reviews. There are pros and cons with these reviews. The pro is that it's implied that there were many and that they were published in trade papers and film magazines. The con is that Rode does describe them as being written by fellow filmmakers of the day and through his wording, gives off the impression that they wouldn't be at the same standard as say, film reviews written today.
  • ::What stood out for me is that these reviews existed and as such, there's reason to suspect that there might be more out there, especially if this ever got a release to English markets. It's unclear if it did not not, admittedly. But I think there's likely enough to argue for at least a weak keep but again, at bare minimum this should be a redirect to Curtiz's filmography. ReaderofthePack(formerly Tokyogirl79) (。◕‿◕。) 14:01, 14 April 2025 (UTC)
  • Weak keep This is by the legend :Michael Curtiz, although I haven't seen the film, it has some prominence behind it for the name of the director. I wouldn't be surprised if this is noted in books. Per above comments and WP:OFFLINESOURCES should exist, I am inclined for a keep. Govvy (talk) 22:50, 11 April 2025 (UTC)
  • Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Hungary-related deletion discussions. WCQuidditch 01:17, 12 April 2025 (UTC)
  • I'm leaning toward redirect (to :Michael Curtiz). I came across an [https://www.hangosfilm.hu/filmografia/az-aranyaso entry] with a bibliography for the film, but all of the articles listed make only a very brief mention. It also says "A film kópiája elveszett", which makes me think it's a lost film. That'd explain why we can't find much coverage of it, despite plenty of critical interest in Curtiz's work. The section from Rode's book seems kind of dismissive of how useful any contemporaneous articles are going to be. hinnk (talk) 09:43, 13 April 2025 (UTC)
  • Keep: One page in the book mentioned above and various sources listed at https://www.hangosfilm.hu/filmografia/az-aranyaso (please click on Források (sources)). -Mushy Yank. 21:18, 13 April 2025 (UTC)
  • :Which of those sources listed at https://www.hangosfilm.hu/filmografia/az-aranyaso did you think provided significant coverage? Having spent a bunch of time finding copies of the articles, looking for where they discussed Az aranyásó, and then noting here that they "make only a very brief mention", it'd be super helpful to get some feedback on where I went wrong. hinnk (talk) 21:29, 13 April 2025 (UTC)
  • ::Magyar Bálint: A magyar némafilm története 1896-1918. Bp. 1966. p. 245-246, for example +1 page in the book about Curtiz (mentioning various reviews)+ the rest seems all in all more than enough for a 1914 film by that director. -Mushy Yank. 04:33, 14 April 2025 (UTC)
  • :::Much appreciated, that was helpful! hinnk (talk) 09:24, 17 April 2025 (UTC)
  • Keep as there is reliable book coverage and evidence of off-line contemporary reviews, imv Atlantic306 (talk) 19:57, 15 April 2025 (UTC)

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