Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Haines, California

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Well, the California Railroad Commission was no help this time, but the topos clearly show another isolated station with a short passing siding, now long gone. A couple of mammoth ag businesses have sprung up around the spot, but there's no era which shows any settlement here at all. Mangoe (talk) 03:22, 13 May 2021 (UTC)

:Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Geography-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 07:08, 13 May 2021 (UTC)

:Note: This discussion has been included in the list of California-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 07:08, 13 May 2021 (UTC)

• Delete - Multiple sources describe Haines as a Southern Pacific Railroad platform; none describe it as a populated place. Magnolia677 (talk) 10:31, 13 May 2021 (UTC)
• This is where history books beat map reading yet again. Arcadia Publishing's {{ISBN|9780738531243}} page 86 tells us that this is the Abner Haines Farmstead in Briggs subdivision. The Arcadia books are good guides in this, and what's in the book is mostly about Abner Haines and not about the place where xe lived on West Telegraph Road. This looks to be another rubbish two-sentence GNIS article that is actually a biography in heavy disguise, because in addition to the Arcadia book Abner Haines is in oral histories such as Robert E Clarke's 1936 Narrative of a Native ("Abner Haines was born in Maine. He came to California in 1853 and engaged in mining at Indian Creek on the Middle Yuba. […]"), in the 1883 {{Internet Archive|id=historyofsantaba00maso|page=n599|name=History of Ventura county California}}, and in a 1938 oral history elsewhere by Maude Haines Henderson, his daughter. The Ventura history is too old to cover much beyond Haines' arrival, however. Oral histories I mistrust, moreover. If there were another 20th/21st century non-oral history, in addition to the Arcadia book, I'd rename and refactor to Abner Haines. But I haven't found one. This person is not nearly as well documented as {{On AFD|Edward Field Goltra|Goltra, Missouri}}, another biography hiding behind a rubbish GNIS article, is. Uncle G (talk) 10:43, 13 May 2021 (UTC)

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