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Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Hayvi Bouzo

:The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. Barkeep49 (talk) 03:56, 15 September 2019 (UTC)

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I came across this article while doing NPP; I first prodded it, but the prod was declined, so I am bringing it here. The subject is a journalist and a bureau chief for Orient News. Most of the sources cited in the article are various interviews that she conducted, rather than articles or news-stories where she herself was the subject. The only exception is a video-clip of the VOA interview of her by Greta Van Susteren. A google news search for "Hayvi Bouzo" returns 3 hits, that contain only brief mentions of her. I am not seeing enough here to show passing either WP:GNG or WP:BIO. Nsk92 (talk) 21:13, 30 August 2019 (UTC)

:Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Journalism-related deletion discussions. Nsk92 (talk) 21:17, 30 August 2019 (UTC)

:Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Television-related deletion discussions. Nsk92 (talk) 21:20, 30 August 2019 (UTC)

:Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Women-related deletion discussions. Coolabahapple (talk) 01:11, 31 August 2019 (UTC)

  • Delete - journalist for a small outfit; lacking WP:SIGCOV. Bearian (talk) 21:07, 3 September 2019 (UTC)
  • Keep main host of a political TV shows The and interview with high level politician people. sources are reliable and this source [http://www.startimes.com/?t=25407545] is an interview with her in Arabic. also she has participated in a meeting with President Trump, because of discussing about Syria and middle east as a notable journalist.Ms.bletvok (talk) 22:42, 3 September 2019 (UTC)
  • Delete Probably WP:TOOSOON. Insufficient sources to establish GNG. The fact that she met with someone famous does not matter, as lots of not famous people have met with presidents, and on Wikipedia, notability is WP:NOTINHERITED.ThatMontrealIP (talk) 23:39, 3 September 2019 (UTC)
  • Keep I found [http://www.startimes.com/?t=25407545] that's a fully-described interview with her as a well-known Syrian television presenter in Arabic. I'm fluent in Arabic and the interview is most about her career in journalism and television. Furthermore, [https://www.voanews.com/episode/voa-interview-hayvi-bouzo-orient-tv-3788841] is her interview with VOA that's specially about herself and her career. Also by other sources on the article, I think she's notable enough as a television personality or television Journalist and pass WP:GNG.Fatzaof (talk) 20:34, 5 September 2019 (UTC)
  • Delete - does not meet WP:JOURNALIST - just having a job on TV is not notable - interviews are not reliable sources - Epinoia (talk) 04:46, 6 September 2019 (UTC)
  • Keep the user Epinoia wrote that sources are not reliable. as I know VOA is considering as a reliable source and as the user Fatzaof wrote, in the interview she is talking about herself as a journalist. I haven't used unreliable sources in writing the article and after nominating article for deletion, I added more sources. Orient TV of Orient News is one of famous television in Syria. she is presenter of one of most popular tv shows of that. Voa source and other Arabic and english source of article establish her notability as a journalist.Nasin3030 (talk) 08:22, 6 September 2019 (UTC)
  • Keep sources of article is supporting content of article and I yhink reliable sources of article establish notability. So I think subject meets WP:GNG.صدیق صبري (talk) 09:59, 7 September 2019 (UTC)

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Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Jovanmilic97 (talk) 21:39, 7 September 2019 (UTC)

  • Comment Interviews are often considered primary sources here and therefore do not establish notability. As for the non-interview sources, one is behind a paywall that I cannot access so I am unsure of its notability-establishing power, the ASML Syria source briefly mentions her in passing so likewise does not provide WP:SIGCOV and notability, and the Kayla's List source I do not have access to. Since I do not speak or read Arabic I cannot judge the validity of the remaining sources so am unable to judge notability overall, but I just wanted to chip in what sources count on Wikipedia for notability and what sources don't. – John M Wolfson (talk • contribs) 00:12, 8 September 2019 (UTC)
  • Delete Article is entirely synthesis and original research. All (or almost all) of the sources are primary sources from which some information has been gleaned. The standard for notability for a journalist is not if they report the news in a notable way, it is if they are the news in a notable way. Rockphed (talk) 12:26, 12 September 2019 (UTC)
  • Keep Article includes fully-described interviews that establish subject as a well-known television presenter and journalist. Voice of America and Wall Street Journal, two highly-reliable sources, prove notability. The Wall Street Journal article references the subject meeting U.S. President Donald Trump, further establishing notability. The WSJ article establishes that the meeting with President Donald Trump was due to her notability as a journalist and not a random encounter. --Mgard631 (talk) 16:13, 12 September 2019 (UTC)

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:The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.