Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Holy Cross Parish, Fall River

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No apparent notability and does not meet WP:ORG and WP:ORGDEPTH. Individual branches or chapters of larger organizations are not inherently notable. Mkdw^talk 23:01, 28 February 2013 (UTC) Mkdw^talk 23:07, 28 February 2013 (UTC)

:Note: This debate has been included in the list of Massachusetts-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 00:24, 1 March 2013 (UTC)

:Note: This debate has been included in the list of Organizations-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 00:25, 1 March 2013 (UTC)

:Note: This debate has been included in the list of Christianity-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 00:25, 1 March 2013 (UTC)

• Delete. Find me solid coverage about this church, and I'll happily change my mind, but in the complete absence of time-independent sources, we can't have a reasonable article that follows our not-a-newspaper standards. Nyttend (talk) 02:19, 1 March 2013 (UTC)
• Delete. Parishes are not general notable, although their churches may be. -- Necrothesp (talk) 14:04, 1 March 2013 (UTC)
• Keep unless I am directed to a policy that states what Necrothesp said above. (Ping me on my talk if so). Pending lack of policy, I believe parishes and churches are generally notable. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 01:32, 2 March 2013 (UTC)

:*For starters, "No subject is automatically or inherently notable merely because it exists", if that is your basis for keep. If you're basing your keep because the delete camp has a lack of policy based arguments, then if you haven't closely already, please review my argument as the nominator. I cite a number of policies, but most importantly, WP:BRANCH; the larger religious organization is notable but the local branches (parishes) are not inherently notable and must meet GNG on their own. Mkdw^talk 02:39, 2 March 2013 (UTC)

::*What he said! You're surely not saying that every single parish and church in the world is notable?! Churches are notable if they're particularly big or of historical or architectural significance. Parishes would have to be pretty damn significant to be notable. Higher levels of church organisation like dioceses or equivalent, on the other hand, are notable. -- Necrothesp (talk) 17:23, 2 March 2013 (UTC)

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