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Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/I Know It Hurts

:The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was redirect. No prejudice against undoing the redirect if the single charts after it is released and there are reliable sources. Beeblebrox (talk) 19:44, 5 February 2011 (UTC)

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Fails WP:NSONG. Logan Talk Contributions 16:42, 21 January 2011 (UTC)

  • Redirect to album AB III CTJF83 chat 17:11, 21 January 2011 (UTC)
  • Note: This debate has been included in the list of Albums and songs-related deletion discussions. -- • Gene93k (talk) 19:17, 21 January 2011 (UTC)
  • Keep. It is yet to be released but will be a notable single by a notable band from a notable album. It deserves its own page. The band's press/fan liaison confirmed that the song will be released worldwide with the exception of North America, but I'm not sure if that's an official source. If that's the case, we can delete the page until an official press release is released. 63.248.11.9 (talk) 03:13, 22 January 2011 (UTC)
  • First the article has to obtain Notability then you create the article, that's how Wikipedia works. CTJF83 chat 03:33, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

:Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ron Ritzman (talk) 00:37, 28 January 2011 (UTC)

  • Redirect to album for now. Song is not notable at the moment. ~~ Lothar von Richthofen (talk) 10:35, 28 January 2011 (UTC)
  • Redirect or Delete - No sources, seems to mostly speculation. (like it releasing when their last single loses popularity...) Sergecross73 msg me 14:08, 28 January 2011 (UTC)

:Alter Bridge's press liaison confirmed this on www.thealterbridgenation.com Live Light (talk) 15:34, 28 January 2011 (UTC)

:As I said, this has been confirmed by Michael Tremonti, Mark Tremonti's brother and Alter Bridge's press/fan liaison. He posted it on the Alter Bridge Nation discussion board. This thread: http://thealterbridgenation.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=27817&st=0&sk=t&sd=a Live Light (talk) 19:18, 28 January 2011 (UTC)

::Has that website confirmed that it will be a future hit? Because until that happens (or something else notable), it doesn't merit its own article.--Esprit15d • talk • contribs 19:32, 28 January 2011 (UTC)

::::WP:Crystal say "Individual scheduled or expected future events should only be included if the event is notable and almost certain to take place." User comments on a discussion board don't give any certainty at all. As for notability, this song article is still indiscriminate info: even after the song is released, it has got to chart or have some other compelling reason to not be turned into a redirect to the band or album article. SteveStrummer (talk) 19:44, 28 January 2011 (UTC)

  • Delete. The article is kind of horryfyingly OR, but regardless, if and when the single comes out, we can... well even then I would probably wait until it actually met WP:NSONG. Right now it certainly doesn't, and it's anyone's guess what the future will bring.--Esprit15d • talk • contribs 19:32, 28 January 2011 (UTC)
  • Weak keep seems to be confirmed as a single to the point that they have cover art for it, and when released will be unquestionably notable. I see no reason to delete this just to bring it back in 3 weeks or whatever. No objection to deletion if the single fails to come out in, say, 2 months. Andrew Lenahan - Starblind 01:43, 29 January 2011 (UTC)
  • Redirect rather than delete, in all other respects I agree with Andrew Lenahan above. --Richhoncho (talk) 15:46, 29 January 2011 (UTC)
  • Keep. It's been confirmed as the new single: http://itunes.apple.com/au/album/i-know-it-hurts-single/id415239995 63.248.11.9 (talk) 15:51, 2 February 2011 (UTC)

:The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.