Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Incorporation (Netherlands)

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This article is a 2021 WP:REDUNDANTFORK or at best an unnecessary and premature WP:SPINOFF of Kingdom of Holland. Our Kingdom of Holland article needs more content, not less, because of the general tendency to frontload content into the country and general history articles. The detailed history articles, such as Kingdom of Holland, end up much too short. Less importantly, but maybe related, the article speaks of the incorporation of the Netherlands (initially even "The" Netherlands that Enwiki does not use), while the name Holland was used during this period. The Incorporation of the "Netherlands" and "Kingdom of Holland" articles largely overlap and rehash each other. Suggesting a merge to Kingdom of Holland of usable content and a redirect. gidonb (talk) 22:59, 3 December 2022 (UTC) Withdrawn gidonb (talk) 14:38, 4 December 2022 (UTC)

• Keep. First of all, in Dutch Historiography the Incorporation is a different historical period, apart from the Kingdom of Holland. So, this article has in that way it's own right of existence next to the Kingdom. It's like putting Allied-occoupied Germany in the article of Nazi Germany. I understand the argument for a merge in the article about the Kingdom of Holland because of it's short length, but I'm willing to help expand the article about the Kingdom. I got loads of information for that article, so that wouldn't be a problem. In that way both articles can coexist. Mathijsloo (talk) 10:31, 4 December 2022 (UTC)
• Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: History, France, and Netherlands. gidonb (talk) 22:59, 3 December 2022 (UTC)

::The comparison is a misleading frame. The articles rehash each other and no two articles are needed at present. On the positive side, the offer to expand the Kingdom of Holland article is much appreciated! In anticipation of serious and much-needed improvements and expansions in the 18th-19th century history of the Netherlands (for a while officially Holland), I will withdraw this nomination. It would NOT be right to keep an article hostage for this purpose! (I hate it when people do this) gidonb (talk) 11:38, 4 December 2022 (UTC)

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