Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Independent State of Aramoana

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Article has no sources, despite being tagged since September. I tried finding sources with Google, but all I find are mirrors of this article, and brief trivial mentions. Unless substantial coverage is found, this fails the notability test. Rob (talk) 06:05, 21 February 2009 (UTC)

• Merge back to Aramoana; not finding the reliable source coverage necessary to justify a stand-alone article. Baileypalblue (talk) 08:46, 21 February 2009 (UTC)

:*See below. Baileypalblue (talk) 06:04, 22 February 2009 (UTC)

• This is already mentioned in a section on Aramoana. I think even that should also be removed, as long as there are no sources. Serious negative claims are made, that if untrue would be libelous. So, without sources there should be no mention of it, anywhere. I find it odd, that there's no sources given, even though it's supposed to be such a controversial story. --Rob (talk) 09:51, 21 February 2009 (UTC)
• Merge/redirect to Aramoana - Somebody has provided sources at Aramoana. I think a combined article is appropriate, since this "micronation" is really simply one of the tacticts used in the dispute over building the smelter, and it doesn't make sense to separate it out, from a relatively small article. --Rob (talk) 17:14, 21 February 2009 (UTC)
• Merge, as per reasons above. --Lholden (talk) 21:49, 21 February 2009 (UTC)
• Merge/redirect to Aramoana, as per reasons above--Unionhawk (talk) 21:55, 21 February 2009 (UTC)
• Note: This debate has been included in the list of New Zealand-related deletion discussions. —David Eppstein (talk) 00:43, 22 February 2009 (UTC)
• Rename to "Aramoana aluminium smelter proposal". Dozens of newspaper headlines from a library search[http://www.dunedinlibraries.com/ipac20/ipac.jsp?profile=remote&menu=search&submenu=subtab25&ts=1235262865807#focus], a Government Act[http://legislation.govt.nz/act/local/1981/0009/latest/DLM75393.html], a documentary[http://www.dect.org.nz/modules/extcal/event.php?event=225], 1k Google hits for an event over 25 years ago, the topic is easily notable in it's own right. As above the Independent state is a subtopic/tactic in the campaign against the proposal. XLerate (talk) 02:15, 22 February 2009 (UTC)

:*Actually, with this demonstration that reliable source coverage exists, I'd say it's better to keep the article under its current title rather than re-writing it to make the smelter the subject of the article, but that's better discussed at the respective talk pages. Baileypalblue (talk) 06:02, 22 February 2009 (UTC)

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