Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Irena Jordanova

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The topic does not meet WP:NAUTHOR, WP:ANYBIO or WP:GNG criteria. See source analysis table.

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| source = {{cite web |url=https://www.vecer.press/нова-книга-послушен-брод-што-плови-на/ |title=Нова книга: "Послушен брод што плови" на Јорданова – Вечер |website=www.vecer.press |url-status=dead |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20180725135855/https://vecer.press/%d0%bd%d0%be%d0%b2%d0%b0-%d0%ba%d0%bd%d0%b8%d0%b3%d0%b0-%d0%bf%d0%be%d1%81%d0%bb%d1%83%d1%88%d0%b5%d0%bd-%d0%b1%d1%80%d0%be%d0%b4-%d1%88%d1%82%d0%be-%d0%bf%d0%bb%d0%be%d0%b2%d0%b8-%d0%bd%d0%b0/ |archive-date=2018-07-25}}

| ind = -

| ind_just = Slavica Gadzova Sviderska is quoted as the editorial reviewer, her commentary is not independent work of literary criticism and could simply be the blurb

| rel = -

| rel_just = contains promotional statements including: "one of the most downloaded novels on Amazon" which is, of course, ridiculous

| sig = n

| sig_just = WP:ROUTINE book announcement

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| source = {{Cite web |last=Макфакс |date=2018-07-20 |title=Објавен третиот роман на Ирена Јорданова |url=https://makfax.com.mk/kultura/%d0%be%d0%b1%d1%98%d0%b0%d0%b2%d0%b5%d0%bd-%d1%82%d1%80%d0%b5%d1%82%d0%b8%d0%be%d1%82-%d1%80%d0%be%d0%bc%d0%b0%d0%bd-%d0%bd%d0%b0-%d0%b8%d1%80%d0%b5%d0%bd%d0%b0-%d1%98%d0%be%d1%80%d0%b4%d0%b0%d0%bd/ |access-date=2023-03-10 |website=МАКФАКС |language=mk-MK |archive-date=2020-02-03 |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20200203125555/https://makfax.com.mk/kultura/%D0%BE%D0%B1%D1%98%D0%B0%D0%B2%D0%B5%D0%BD-%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B5%D1%82%D0%B8%D0%BE%D1%82-%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%BC%D0%B0%D0%BD-%D0%BD%D0%B0-%D0%B8%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%B0-%D1%98%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B4%D0%B0%D0%BD/ |url-status=live}}

| ind = -

| ind_just = same as previous, with a longer quote of the non-independent, editorial, review

| rel = -

| rel_just = same as previous, with extended promotional content

| sig = n

| sig_just = WP:ROUTINE book announcement

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| source = {{unbulleted list citebundle|{{Cite web |url=http://www.blesok.mk/avtor.asp?lang=eng&id=1152 |title=Irena Jordanova |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20120425150045/http://www.blesok.mk/avtor.asp?lang=eng&id=1152 |archive-date=2012-04-25 |website=Blesok Cultural Institution |url-status=dead}}|{{cite web |title=Irena Jordanova |url=https://blesok.mk/mk/authors/%D0%B8%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%B0-%D1%98%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B4%D0%B0%D0%BD%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%B0/?doing_wp_cron=1709471374.1403698921203613281250 |website=Blesok Cultural Institution |access-date=3 March 2024 |language=mk-MK}}}}

| ind = -

| ind_just = The subject's story was published in the blesok.mk publication, leading to her short profile being included on the organization's website

| rel = ?

| rel_just = the biographical summary was probably supplied by the subject

| sig = n

| sig_just = short author biography on a publisher's website is not significant coverage

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| source = [http://www.utrinski.com.mk/?ItemID=9995AF27920E9C41B7ABE81F7E12F21A Utrinski Vesnik] {{Webarchive|url=https://web.archive.org/web/20120326012632/http://www.utrinski.com.mk/?ItemID=9995AF27920E9C41B7ABE81F7E12F21A |date=2012-03-26}}
- [http://www.utrinski.com.mk/default.asp?ItemID=BBADD9137713E74DB979614CC9AF889F Novel of the Year Award, 2008] {{Webarchive|url=https://web.archive.org/web/20110722160618/http://www.utrinski.com.mk/default.asp?ItemID=BBADD9137713E74DB979614CC9AF889F |date=2011-07-22}}

| ind = n

| ind_just = this is the publication Utrinski vesnik writing about the literary award given by Utrinski vesnik; moreover Irena Jordanova was an employee for Utrinski vesnik as a journalist at some point{{unbulleted list citebundle|{{Cite web |url=http://www.blesok.mk/avtor.asp?lang=eng&id=1152 |title=Irena Jordanova |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20120425150045/http://www.blesok.mk/avtor.asp?lang=eng&id=1152 |archive-date=2012-04-25 |website=Blesok Cultural Institution |url-status=dead }}|{{cite web |title=Irena Jordanova |url=https://blesok.mk/mk/authors/%D0%B8%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%B0-%D1%98%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B4%D0%B0%D0%BD%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%B0/?doing_wp_cron=1709471374.1403698921203613281250 |website=Blesok Cultural Institution |access-date=3 March 2024 |language=mk-MK}}}}

| rel = -

| rel_just = there are some pretty vapid statements here that don't resemble serious literary criticism ("Irena Jordanova heralds the arrival of a top-notch writer of literary prose in Macedonian literature, who will not be somewhere between one and the other, but will be among the best")

| sig = n

| sig_just = these are two articles about the same award, and Jordanova or her book are not discussed in any depth or specificity; note that Jordanova is mentioned as a competition entrant and did not win the award

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| source = {{Cite web |url=http://www.bjcem.org/dettagli_artista.asp?id_artista=1352&edition=28 |title=The International Association of the Biennial of Young Artists from Europe |access-date=2011-04-15 |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20110824195520/http://www.bjcem.org/dettagli_artista.asp?id_artista=1352&edition=28 |archive-date=2011-08-24 |url-status=dead}}

| ind = n

| ind_just = profile of a participant at a literary event on that event's website; the book description was probably provided by the subject or the domestic organizers who selected her for participation in the international event

| rel = n

| rel_just = the unsigned description of the book can not be seen as a credible critique

| sig = n

| sig_just = a directory entry with a short book description

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| source = https://iliili.com.mk/knigi/katalizator-33/

| ind = n

| ind_just = bood ad on the publisher's website

| rel = -

| rel_just = promotional content, but the statement that the English-language version is self-published is credible

| sig = n

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WP:BEFORE does not reveal any further usable sources.

• {{small|It may be of interest to participants (but should not be seen as determinative with respect to deleting or keeping, and is not the movativator behind this AfD) that this article owes its existence to an old Macedonian book promotion initiative which was recently discussed at ANI.}}

{{reftalk}}—Alalch E. 14:34, 3 March 2024 (UTC)

• Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Women, Literature, and North Macedonia. —Alalch E. 14:34, 3 March 2024 (UTC)
• Delete: Per source analysis above. Nothing useful in google search or gnews either. ARandomName123 (talk)^{Ping me!} 16:36, 3 March 2024 (UTC)
• Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Authors-related deletion discussions. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 16:37, 3 March 2024 (UTC)
• Delete: I find one interview for this person; otherwise the source analysis table shows none are valid sourcing. Delete for not meeting AUTHOR. Happy to reconsider if some book reviews or stories about the author in the native language. Oaktree b (talk) 16:55, 3 March 2024 (UTC)
• Delete. As I mentioned earlier on the talk page, three novels suggests that WP:NAUTHOR is a possible notability claim. But I can't find evidence for it. Ordinarily I would hesitate to call for deletion since I don't read Macedonian and am unfamiliar with the media architecture there - but given the ANI incident Alalch E. mentions, I think if there were other reviews, the promotors responsible for these articles would have linked them. So I'm inclined to believe they don't exist. -- asilvering (talk) 21:39, 3 March 2024 (UTC)
• :That's a new one... We ask for sources, they get some "published" and immediately use them for notability. Oaktree b (talk) 14:47, 6 March 2024 (UTC)
• ::@Oaktree b Unfortunately it seems they may have been at it for some time, so if you find any Macedonian writers with suspiciously timed reviews in the references, they might be worth a deeper look. -- asilvering (talk) 17:29, 6 March 2024 (UTC)

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