Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Isaac Adler

:The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. Consensus seems to indicate that the Heymann standard comes into effect here. (non-admin closure)  — Mr. Guye (talk) (contribs)  02:46, 9 October 2018 (UTC)

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No indication that this individual meets WP:NPOL, or more broadly, WP:GNG. It kind of reads like an obituary, but it's not clear where the encyclopedic value is. Marquardtika (talk) 18:55, 2 October 2018 (UTC)

:Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Politicians-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU(T) 19:26, 2 October 2018 (UTC)

:Note: This discussion has been included in the list of New York-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU(T) 19:26, 2 October 2018 (UTC)

  • Delete Keep a Newspapers.com search brought up over 2,000 mentions in New York State so there's a possible WP:NEXIST, but mayors don't necessarily pass WP:NPOL without significant coverage. I don't have access to the search results - that being said, the article is currently only sourced to genealogy websites, which don't count toward notability. SportingFlyer talk 02:27, 3 October 2018 (UTC)
  • keep and improve. Coverage of his political role moving Rochester (a major city in his era) to a city manager system exists in books and newspapers. Also scholarly coverage, such as: "Rochester's city manager campaign,"Story, Stephen B., National municipal review, ISSN:0190-3799, 04/1926, Volume: 15 Issue: 4 Page: 208-211. Clearly a significant Progressive Era civic figure in Rochester. Scion of Adler Rochester clothes, a men's ready-made company. Rochester was a center of the ready made clothing industry c. 1900. Article just needs expansion.E.M.Gregory (talk) 10:22, 3 October 2018 (UTC)

:*{{re|E.M.Gregory}} Would you mind terribly finding a couple of non-routine feature newspaper articles on him and posting them here? I know we've had our disagreements at AfD, but my delete vote was based entirely on the current sourcing of the article and a difficulty of finding good sources quickly. I'm prepared to change to keep and would improve the article a little bit if a couple good feature articles/WP:SIGCOV can be found. SportingFlyer talk 11:55, 3 October 2018 (UTC)

::* Anybody know whether/where to find archives of the Democrat and Chronicle, Rochester Times-Union, and whatever other papers covered Rochester in the 20's? I'm sure they ran such articles. Meanwhile, I expanded and sourced his role in moving Rochester to a city manager system to a 1961 history of Rochester (reprinted in 1999,) and 1926 articles in the National Municipal Review, and the American Political Science Review. Partisan academic journals are nothing new, both of these were stridently "progressive" journals in the 1920s, extremely pro-city manager (all eras have hot button issues that sound arcane a century later.)E.M.Gregory (talk) 13:16, 3 October 2018 (UTC)

:::*{{re|E.M.Gregory}} I've changed to a keep now the article has been expanded. Thanks! SportingFlyer talk 23:43, 7 October 2018 (UTC)

  • Keep Important figure in the history of Rochester, plus Rochester is an important city in New York. There are enough sources in the archives to pass GNG. ~EDDY (talk/contribs)~ 13:31, 3 October 2018 (UTC)
  • Keep Sufficient RS coverage of a mayor of a large city (population 300,000+ in 1930). --Enos733 (talk) 16:34, 3 October 2018 (UTC)
  • Keep. This could certainly use some further improvement, but there is already enough substance and enough reliable sourcing here to pass WP:NPOL #2. Rochester is a major enough city that articles about its mayors should be permissible and expected; the cutoff for mayors is nowhere near as restrictive as the cutoff for city councillors is. Bearcat (talk) 19:58, 3 October 2018 (UTC)

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:The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.