Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jack Deere
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The result was no consensus__EXPECTED_UNCONNECTED_PAGE__. Star Mississippi 02:16, 21 February 2024 (UTC)
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I couldn't find sources to show he meets WP:N or that there is a good WP:ATD. This ahs been in CAT:NN for 14 years; hopefully we can now resolve it. Boleyn (talk) 05:47, 22 January 2024 (UTC)
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- Delete: I found this, it seems like a RS [https://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/2018/april-web-only/jack-deere-went-through-hell-to-come-to-faith.html], but it's not enough for notability. Oaktree b (talk) 16:07, 22 January 2024 (UTC)
- Delete. I'm seeing (1) some [https://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/2018/april-web-only/jack-deere-went-through-hell-to-come-to-faith.html routine coverage] of the publication of his new books, (2) a couple of [https://www.christianpost.com/news/todd-bentley-sexual-misconduct-allegations-widen-to-pakistan.html passing mentions] of his name in articles on other topics, (3) some [https://books.google.com/books?id=4zIaAAAAIBAJ&pg=PA4&dq=%22Jack+Deere%22&article_id=6189,2202204&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiHgqvBs_GDAxWOMDQIHRkKDEYQ6AF6BAgHEAI#v=onepage&q=%22Jack%20Deere%22&f=false advertisements], and (4) a couple of [https://www.4truthministry.com/navigation/tmsj8g.pdf book reviews]. None of that seems like it meets the threshold for notability.
:— Moriwen (talk) 16:22, 22 January 2024 (UTC)
:Comment It would be good to check for a pass of WP:NAUTHOR: if multiple of his books pass WP:NBOOK with 2 reviews, that would be a NAUTHOR pass. The Christianity Today book review linked above as "routine coverage" is by no means routine coverage; it is an NBOOK-qualifying source for Even in Our Darkness (as long as it is an independent RS, which I do not know). If a second review for that book is found, that book passes NBOOK and he's part of the way along to NAUTHOR. (Routine coverage in an NBOOK context would be [https://www.publishersweekly.com/pw/by-topic/industry-news/book-deals/article/94131-book-deals-week-of-january-22-2024.html this kind of thing].) Note than an NAUTHOR pass does not require biographical coverage of the author. ~ L 🌸 (talk) 23:19, 24 January 2024 (UTC)
- Keep as well as the Christianity Today review there is also this piece in the Publisher's Weekly [https://www.publishersweekly.com/pw/by-topic/industry-news/religion/article/76048-jack-deere-shares-his-broken-life.html here] which states that two of his books sold 400,000 copies combined which suggests there should be reviews. I found this review [https://www.patheos.com/blogs/adrianwarnock/2006/09/book-surprised-by-power-of-spirit-jack/ here] and a number of reviews listed in Google Books but i didn't get any previews, Atlantic306 (talk) 21:39, 28 January 2024 (UTC)
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Relisting comment: Third relist to review the newly proposed sources.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Sandstein 18:54, 13 February 2024 (UTC)
- Weak Keep. Most of what appears in a quick google is blogs and other unreliable sources but I found a couple more CT articles(probably paywalled) a [https://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/1994/january10/books.html| full review]] of his first book when it was published and [https://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/1988/february-5/three-professors-part-paths-with-dallas.html| news coverage] of his firing from DTS. He looks to meet WP:AUTHOR, I think. Eluchil404 (talk) 01:25, 20 February 2024 (UTC)
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