Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jack Ryan (FBI agent)

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Does not meet notability guidelines nf utvol (talk) 17:58, 2 May 2010 (UTC)

• Comment This seems to be almost totaly unsourced, it needs a lot of work.Slatersteven (talk) 19:44, 2 May 2010 (UTC)

Some sources that may indicate some notability.

http://books.google.com/books?id=IXIHi77EBZoC&pg=PA372&dq=Jack+Ryan+(FBI+agent&hl=en&ei=gNbdS825BIv4-AafsOGhBw&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=1&ved=0CDkQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=Jack%20Ryan%20(FBI%20agent&f=false

http://books.google.com/books?id=NOcDAAAAMBAJ&pg=PA16&dq=Jack+Ryan+(FBI+agent&hl=en&ei=gNbdS825BIv4-AafsOGhBw&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=3&ved=0CEIQ6AEwAg#v=onepage&q=Jack%20Ryan%20(FBI%20agent&f=false

So the articel may need work, but I'm not sure this is exaclty unnotable.Slatersteven (talk) 19:51, 2 May 2010 (UTC)

• Delete. Suuuuuuuuuuper non-notable. JBsupreme (talk) ✄ ✄ ✄ 20:14, 2 May 2010 (UTC)
• Weak Keep the book and the magazine make two examples of non-trivial coverage in secondary sources, which is what's important here (regardless of how suuuuuuper it is or not, thank you so much for your highly cogent argument JBsupreme). I would agree this individual is probably not VERY notable, but according to wikipedia's guidelines, he barely passes WP:N -Markeer

• Keep. The book seems to be an interview (which isn't exactly independent, but is in-depth). But in addition to the detailed Mother Jones article, see also:

:#[http://www.nytimes.com/1988/05/15/magazine/the-fbi-on-the-defensive-once-again.html?pagewanted=all THE F.B.I. ON THE DEFENSIVE ONCE AGAIN, The New York Times, May 15, 1988, by Sanford J. Ungar]

:#[http://www.nytimes.com/1988/02/03/us/balking-agent-loses-appeal.html?pagewanted=all Balking Agent Loses Appeal, The New York Times, February 3, 1988]

:#Judge Backs F.B.I. in Dismissal of an Agent, The New York Times, January 24, 1991, Thursday, Late Edition - Final, Section A; Page 20; Column 5; National Desk, 178 words, AP

:#Pacifist ex-FBI agent loses court fight, United Press International, January 23, 1991, Wednesday, BC cycle, Domestic News, 323 words

:#Judge Upholds FBI Firing of Pacifist Agent, The Associated Press, January 22, 1991, Tuesday, AM cycle, Domestic News, 297 words, By BILL VOGRIN, Associated Press Writer

:#JOHN (JACK) RYAN, WHO ADOPTED PACIFISM, The Oregonian (Portland, Oregon), January 11, 1991 Friday, Pg. D07

:#FBI: No Room for Pacifists, The Associated Press, January 10, 1991, Thursday, AM cycle, Domestic News, 561 words, By BILL VOGRIN, Associated Press Writer

:#Pacifist Former FBI Agent Suing to Get His Job Back, The Associated Press, January 10, 1991, Thursday, PM cycle, Domestic News, 531 words, By BILL VOGRIN, Associated Press Writer

:#FBI: No Room for Pacifists, The Associated Press, January 10, 1991, Thursday, AM cycle, Domestic News, 621 words, By BILL VOGRIN, Associated Press Writer

:#Judge to rule in pacifist former FBI agent case, United Press International, January 10, 1991, Thursday, BC cycle, Domestic News, 528 words

:#Federal Agency Upholds Firing of FBI Agent Who Disobeyed Orders, The Associated Press, July 14, 1988, Thursday, AM cycle, Domestic News, 294 words, By BILL VOGRIN, Associated Press Writer

:#Ex-agent disillusioned with FBI policies, The San Diego Union-Tribune, February 15, 1988 Monday, OPINION; Pg. B-7, 1387 words, ANN LEVIN, Ann Levin is a Tribune staff writer.

:#Fired FBI Agent Negotiating For Reinstatement, The Associated Press, December 2, 1987, Wednesday, PM cycle, Domestic News, 537 words, By BILL VOGRIN, Associated Press Writer

:#FBI Agent, Fired over Work-Conviction Conflict, Seeks Reinstatement, The Associated Press, December 1, 1987, Tuesday, AM cycle, Domestic News, 652 words, By BILL VOGRIN, Associated Press Writer

:(Text available via LexisNexis.) TheFeds 06:23, 3 May 2010 (UTC)

• KeepOK we have lots of sources. Seems that he is slightly notable. The article need a lot of work but does pass.Slatersteven (talk) 12:50, 3 May 2010 (UTC)
• Note: This debate has been included in the list of People-related deletion discussions. -- • Gene93k (talk) 16:26, 4 May 2010 (UTC)

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