Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jack of None

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There's no assertion of notability for this band. All of the references are self-published. I've nominated the article for speedy deletion and PROD but there are motherfuckers who declined them. Sixth of March 22:54, 19 April 2016 (UTC)

• Delete as I myself patrolled this at NPP and planned to nominate since there's nothing at all for any applicable notability. SwisterTwister talk 23:17, 19 April 2016 (UTC)

:Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. SwisterTwister talk 23:17, 19 April 2016 (UTC)

:Note: This debate has been included in the list of Philippines-related deletion discussions. SwisterTwister talk 23:17, 19 April 2016 (UTC)

• Delete - Fails WP:BAND for lack of available independent sources.- MrX 01:12, 20 April 2016 (UTC)
• Delete - Zero coverage in reliable sources. Narutolovehinata5 ^tccsdnew 06:04, 20 April 2016 (UTC)
• Speedy delete: The article does not contain a credible claim of significance and so falls under CSD A7. --Erick Shepherd (talk) 15:33, 20 April 2016 (UTC)

I do not agree that this should be deleted as this is a band of a person of note who has an entry in Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maxine_Syjuco — Preceding unsigned comment added by ChipsAhoyAndKraftCaramels (talk • contribs) 23:30, 20 April 2016 (UTC)

: {{to|ChipsAhoyAndKraftCaramels}} Firstly, notability is not inherited: The works of a person of note are not themselves inherently notable. Secondly, the article on Maxine Syjuco was authored by the same user who created the article in question. Thirdly, by your contribution history, you appear to be a single-purpose account: I am inclined to believe that you are a sock puppet of that same author. --Erick Shepherd (talk) 23:41, 20 April 2016 (UTC)

: {{to|Erick Shepherd}} I thought attacking users was not allowed :) Anyway, admins or whomever can check my IP address versus the author's and you'll find I am not a sock puppet of any sort. Point taken on notability not being inherited, that's fair enough. As for the sources, there are a few sources there which are from noted publications/sites like the Philippine Star. Frankly, I don't care too much whether or not the page gets deleted - but I have followed this band from their days as Utakan in the art band scene so I know them and in my humble opinion, think this page should be retained. If Wikipedia decides it's not worth saving I will respect that but I do think there is room for civilized discussion.

::That's why I removed the A7 tag; that is a credible claim of significance. "Inherited notability" has nothing to do with it. Adam9007 (talk) 00:09, 21 April 2016 (UTC)

:: {{to|ChipsAhoyAndKraftCaramels}} I am not trying to attack you, merely stating my impressions. A newly created account whose fist edit is to comment on an AfD is rather atypical and strikes me as a red flag. If I am mistaken, then I apologize — but for the moment, I maintain my suspicions. --Erick Shepherd (talk) 00:11, 21 April 2016 (UTC)

: {{to|Adam9007}} Thanks for the clarification. I am new to this, am not completely aware of the policies. I just signed up because upon googling Utakan (was wondering what they were up to these days) I saw this page, and saw it was for deletion. As someone who was (still is?) a fan of this band, I thought it didn't seem right that it be tagged for deletion so I added sources and joined the discussion. So, yes, I joined Wikipedia just for this. Now, again, if this page is not deemed a proper page by Wikipedia then I will respect the decision. Though, I can actually find more articles for sure about the band Utakan, and since it has evolved into Jack of None - I think the page might be worth retaining, as Utakan had valid buzz in the art band scene and got coverage from legit publications. Just my humble opinion :) — Preceding unsigned comment added by ChipsAhoyAndKraftCaramels (talk • contribs) 20:18, 20 April 2016

: {{to|Erick Shepherd}} Thanks for the response. I did somehow feel attacked at first but now I think I can see where you are coming from - I would probably have the same suspicions if I were you. Just a fan trying to share my opinion. — Preceding unsigned comment added by ChipsAhoyAndKraftCaramels (talk • contribs) 20:21, 20 April 2016‎

:: {{to|ChipsAhoyAndKraftCaramels}} Again, my apologies. If you know of good sources under Utakan, you're more than welcome to incorporate them into the article! Hit me up if you need any help! --Erick Shepherd (talk) 00:26, 21 April 2016 (UTC)

: {{to|Erick Shepherd}} Thank you! :) I sincerely appreciate the offer. I'll try adding in more sources, and just might take you up on that offer.

• Redirect to Maxine Syjuco were the band is already covered. Whilst that article is currently atrociously sourced it can be improved. [http://www.artslant.com/ny/articles/show/31083] [https://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=2518&dat=20081212&id=5E1aAAAAIBAJ&sjid=DCgMAAAAIBAJ&pg=1774,1242580&hl=en] [http://www.aaa.org.hk/Collection/Details/44570]. duffbeerforme (talk) 07:46, 22 April 2016 (UTC)

{{clear}}

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