Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jadeite (kitchenware)

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This article, like the article for Fire-King, does not have many citations, and the citation needed tags are everywhere, making it clear that the lack of citations has been known. Citations have not surfaced. For those that wish to keep this page, perhaps citations can be found. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Louiemantia (talk • contribs) 08:36, 2 June 2025 (UTC)

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• Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Food and drink and Products. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 04:44, 4 June 2025 (UTC)
• Comment Notability is there, but the article need cleanup, and the barrage of CN tags isn't helping. There are two books listed as sources. Here are some more sources I found searching. Not sure they're all reliable, and I can't access the paywalled ones, but I'm pretty sure there are a couple good ones among the collection: [https://doi.org/10.1148/radiographics.13.3.8316677] [https://campusarch.msu.edu/?p=5712] [https://www.countryliving.com/shopping/antiques/g72/jadeite/] [https://jacksonvillereview.com/collecting-jadeite-margaret-barnes/] [https://www.apartmenttherapy.com/kitchen-trends-vintage-milk-glass-256611] [https://www.foodnetwork.com/how-to/packages/shopping/articles/what-are-jadeite-dishes] [https://wikipedialibrary.idm.oclc.org/login?auth=production&url=https://search.ebscohost.com/login.aspx?direct=true&db=f6h&AN=150219354&site=eds-live&scope=site] -- Avocado (talk) 18:23, 4 June 2025 (UTC)
• Keep In addition to the sources already in the article, and those found by user Avocado, I have found a book, Jadite: An Identification and Price Guide [https://www.google.com.au/books/edition/Jadite/lAGUAAAACAAJ?hl=en], which has no preview on Google Books, but has 168 pages and covers "the works of the three major glass companies that produced jadite: McKee, Jeannette, and Anchor Hocking." There is enough SIGCOV to meet WP:GNG, even though we may not be able to immediately add inline citations from all the sources. RebeccaGreen (talk) 13:06, 7 June 2025 (UTC)

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::I don’t really have a strong opinion on this. But I will say that despite apparent notability for both Jadeite and Fire-King and many other types of glass, without sufficient citations, unsourced claims made in the article that have existed for a long time run two distinct risks. 1) Readers may interpret information provided as fact that cannot be verified. And 2) other Wikipedia’s would be fairly justified in removing unsourced claims.

::I think we should be able to agree that collectability is not the same as notability. Though of course, these may be notable given some information available on the subject matter. However, I am a little cautious of citing books specifically from and for collectors of the subject. Reports about the company and its products would be better, from sources that aren’t themselves financially benefitting from these being considered collectible items.

::I don’t understand how people seem to be inserting detailed information about these topics without having the source of that information right in front of them, making them able to make inline citations. If the information cannot be cited, it should be removed. If it is ever placed back, there should be a source for it. How else would someone know what to write with such specificity?

::That all being said, if there is ultimately a consensus of editors who remark this should be kept, then this really does need work. Otherwise, statements that cannot be cited should be removed. At the moment, there is no way for readers to know what is true or false. Louie Mantia (talk) 07:13, 18 June 2025 (UTC)

• Keep Article needs work, as do a lot of these articles on collector items, but this is notable in the space. It has a revival a number of years back and the items remain very collectable. Sources should exist here, beyond the book mentioned. Or merge to Fire King.Nayyn (talk) 06:55, 18 June 2025 (UTC)

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