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Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jake Mauer

:The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was Keep per the consensus that the subject is a current Minor League manager of a notable team, which contradicts the argument that the only assertion of notability is inherited. Steven Walling • talk 23:46, 3 September 2011 (UTC)

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Notability is not inherited. He is best known for being related to a famous person. – Muboshgu (talk) 00:59, 19 August 2011 (UTC)

:Note: This debate has been included in the list of Baseball-related deletion discussions. —– Muboshgu (talk) 01:00, 19 August 2011 (UTC)

:Note: This debate has been included in the list of Sportspeople-related deletion discussions. — • Gene93k (talk) 01:48, 19 August 2011 (UTC)

  • Keep Mostly because I don't like deleting the pages of current minor league managers. His college career seems fairly notable also. Seems like the sources exist to make this a better article. Spanneraol (talk) 16:02, 21 August 2011 (UTC)
  • I respectfully disagree. Minor league managers aren't inherently notable. His college career: maybe, but I feel like many college players who aren't notable have similar collegiate careers. Ask yourself: would this person have a page if he wasn't Joe Mauer's brother? – Muboshgu (talk) 15:09, 22 August 2011 (UTC)
  • Uneasy keep The coaching career is what pushes me into keep territory. There are at least some citations already establishing notability and given his career I imagine there are more. Also, while I agree with Muboshgu that this MiL career wouldn't be enough by itself, I disagree that being related to someone can't be a part of notability. See virtually any First Lady article, Billy Carter, Tommie Aaron (not a perfect example since he did reach the majors, he was just terrible there), etc. Staxringold talkcontribs 16:49, 22 August 2011 (UTC)
  • If you read Wikipedia:NOTINHERITED, you see that it makes specific mention of the First Lady of the United States, because it is an actual defined role. There is no such thing as Lesser brother of a Major League Baseball star. As you said, Aaron's brother made it to the show. Billy Carter had notability on his own that wouldn't have happened without Jimmy, but is clearly independent of Jimmy. – Muboshgu (talk) 22:39, 22 August 2011 (UTC)

::*And Jake Mauer had notability as well, much like Billy. He might not have gotten the shot without the big name brother, but he is a guy with a semi-notable college career and now a decent MiL coaching career. Like I said, I'm not in love with keeping the article (since I'm in part acting on faith that there is more sourcing out there for his coaching), but I think there's enough here. Staxringold talkcontribs 01:11, 23 August 2011 (UTC)

:Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.

:Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, BusterD (talk) 09:35, 26 August 2011 (UTC)

  • Merge to Joe Mauer, otherwise Delete Coverage is WP:ROUTINE for his playing career unless there is mention of his more famous brother, in which case the articles become a compare/contrast of the two or discusses there relationship growing up. Since he doesnt meet WP:GNG on his own, it make sense to merge him where his story has the most WP:IMPACT and where his notability is WP:INHERITED—his brother. Does not merit a stand-alone article.—Bagumba (talk) 05:50, 2 September 2011 (UTC)

:Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.

:Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Black Kite (t) (c) 15:07, 3 September 2011 (UTC)

  • 2nd relist reason: article is a BLP. Black Kite (t) (c) 15:08, 3 September 2011 (UTC)

:The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.