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Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/James L. Erwin

:The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. The consensus here is that the sources quoted are not sufficient to pass WP:AUTHOR as they address his work or his blog, not him directly. I'll be glad to userfy or incubate this article if someone thinks they can find better sources. Ron Ritzman (talk) 12:40, 30 October 2010 (UTC)

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American historian and author. One source goes to his website, one goes to one of his books at Google Books, one is dead, the other goes to the Jeopardy website, where he made an appearance. Couldn't find decent coverage in a search. Christopher Connor (talk) 22:21, 15 October 2010 (UTC)

  • Delete - No evidence of notability from reliable sources. Reads like a promotional piece. Ebikeguy (talk) 22:48, 15 October 2010 (UTC)
  • Comment - documenting that an independent scholar meets WP:GNG or WP:PROF is extremely difficult. I'll give the editors at least a week to find better sources. He gets so many Ghits, and so few Scholar Ghits, it's hard to sort out spam from citations. Bearian (talk)
  • Note: This debate has been included in the list of Authors-related deletion discussions. -- • Gene93k (talk) 22:39, 17 October 2010 (UTC)
  • Note: This debate has been included in the list of Academics and educators-related deletion discussions. -- • Gene93k (talk) 22:42, 17 October 2010 (UTC)
  • Keep author of a book which is in over 500 academic libraries in the US+Canada, according to worldcat. That, plus the recommendation for his blog, is sufficient. DGG ( talk ) 15:42, 21 October 2010 (UTC)
  • Keep per DGG. I moved the PC external link to a reference. Bearian (talk) 15:59, 21 October 2010 (UTC)
  • keep per dggg Aisha9152 (talk) 04:34, 22 October 2010 (UTC)
  • Delete. Apparently no significant coverage in reliable sources of the subject. The PC magazine article is blurb about the web site, not Erwin. There is no information about him on the Greenwood web site, other "JAMES L. ERWIN is an independent scholar." The subject meet none of the criteria at WP:AUTHOR. The number of copies of his books in circulation does not, I believe, count towards the author's notability, but if I am wrong please point me to the relevant policy. I don't think one could make a strong case for his book being notable, and I see no evidence that he himself meets our criteria for inclusion. --Nuujinn (talk) 10:56, 22 October 2010 (UTC)
  • Delete There are clearly not enough sources for this page, per WP:GNG and other relevant guidelines. The blog recommendation on which DGG, Bearian and Aisha rely is all of three sentences and says nothing of Erwin. If all that can be said is that his book is in wide circulation (500 libraries isn't that wide) then lets have an article on the book if need be. But there is nowhere near enough here for a biography. Because there is absolutely nothing about Erwin. The keep !votes haven't come anywhere near demonstrating notability with reference to relevant inclusion standards, and ought to be given less weight accordingly. --Mkativerata (talk) 22:17, 22 October 2010 (UTC)

:Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, -- Cirt (talk) 05:08, 23 October 2010 (UTC)

  • Delete. Very few citations by [http://scholar.google.com/scholar?q=%22James%20L.%20Erwin%22&hl=en&safe=off&rlz=1T4TSNA_enUS385US385&prmd=o&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=ns other scholars], if someone could verify that he has been published in McSweeney's, then he might be notable, but I couldn't find anything with a search.--hkr Laozi speak 13:20, 23 October 2010 (UTC)

The links to the McSweeney's pieces I've written are included below, but I'll keep quiet from here on out. -James Erwin.

http://www.mcsweeneys.net/2006/10/2erwin.html

http://www.mcsweeneys.net/links/lists/10JamesErwin.html

http://www.mcsweeneys.net/2004/10/13erwin.html —Preceding unsigned comment added by 38.108.132.195 (talk) 16:25, 25 October 2010 (UTC)

  • Delete. Keeping this page would be against the consensus developed at WP:AUTHOR. Abductive (reasoning) 07:47, 26 October 2010 (UTC)
  • Delete. A long way from notable. Tom Reedy (talk) 03:15, 28 October 2010 (UTC)

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