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Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jamie Yager

:The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was no consensus. KTC (talk) 00:22, 4 January 2013 (UTC)

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Notability has yet to be established. If he gets a fight against a bigger name opponent, then recreate the page. JonnyBonesJones (talk) 12:01, 20 December 2012 (UTC)

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  • Keep had exhibition fights on Spike's TUF as well as his pro UFC fight. Passes WP:GNG. You might want to also see WP:NOTTEMPORARY in regards to his notability gained via TUF and his UFC loss to Rich Antonnito . Please also see WP:TUF for a compelling essay noting reasons why the TUF fights these guys had should count.PortlandOregon97217 (talk) 00:41, 21 December 2012 (UTC)

:*Comment I dont believe exhibition fights count. He needs to have more PRO fights. JonnyBonesJones (talk) 02:03, 21 December 2012 (UTC)

:*Comment They count towards establishing his passing the WP:GNG. it says at the top "Subjects that do not meet the sport-specific criteria outlined in this guideline may still be notable if they meet the General Notability Guideline". I believe all these TUF guys who are being tagged for deletion aren't being given a fair evaluation under Wp:GNG and people are adhering to WP:NMMA to strictly. PortlandOregon97217 (talk) 02:30, 21 December 2012 (UTC)

  • Delete Fails WP:NMMA. TUF matches, except for the finale, are exhibition matches and should not be counted towards the requirements for WP:NMMA, IMO. --TreyGeek (talk) 03:05, 21 December 2012 (UTC)
  • Keep - Meets WP:NMMA. Sepulwiki (talk) 12:52, 22 December 2012 (UTC)
  • Delete I don't see how people keep saying he meets WP:NMMA when he has one fight for a top tier organization and is currently competing for a minor promotion. As I said at an earlier AfD discussion--exhibition fights don't count, just like the sparring partner of a champion boxer can't claim he fought for that boxer's title. Jakejr (talk) 21:23, 23 December 2012 (UTC)

::Not according to the UFC's own records or sherdog or other major MMA sources or the original consensus at MMANOT. Jakejr (talk) 15:30, 26 December 2012 (UTC)

:Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.

:Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Mediran (t • c) 02:58, 27 December 2012 (UTC)

:The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.