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Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jamin rathbun

:The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. Cirt (talk) 00:53, 7 January 2009 (UTC)

=[[Jamin rathbun]]=

:{{la|Jamin rathbun}} ([{{fullurl:Jamin rathbun|wpReason={{urlencode: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jamin rathbun}}&action=delete}} delete]) – (View AfD)(View log)

Doesn't meet WP:MUSICIAN. No third-party sources. Graymornings(talk) 01:28, 2 January 2009 (UTC)

  • Comment I've updated the page with complete discography for each project, and external links to each project online. Please note that this page is NOT solely about a musician but -- also includes references to the school and non-profit arts foundations. Thanks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Superdink (talk • contribs) 01:59, 2 January 2009 (UTC)
  • Delete. [http://news.google.com/archivesearch?hl=en&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&hs=Onc&um=1&ie=UTF-8&tab=wn&q=%22Jamin+Rathbun%22 Unnotable]. --brewcrewer (yada, yada) 05:27, 2 January 2009 (UTC)
  • Delete member of three non notable bands, lacks coverage in reliable sources, solo albums appear self released, organisations appear non notable, COI. Duffbeerforme (talk) 06:46, 2 January 2009 (UTC)

Non notable? Trinity Arts Center is an active organization with more than 30 employees, and over 400 students -- the largest private school in our region. Did you click on the link to their web site. They produce original ballets, and popular productions attended annually by tens of thousands of patrons. The Foundation funds more than $60,000 worth of arts education scholarships and production grants for thousands of students and patrons. Hot Pink Turtle is NOTED on both the Dighayzoose and REX Records wikis, both of which are already included on record.--Superdink (talk) 07:07, 2 January 2009 (UTC)

:*Wikipedia has different notability guidelines than other wikis. See the guidelines for the inclusion of individual musicians for more info on how the community decides which musicians are notable enough to be included. Graymornings(talk) 09:53, 2 January 2009 (UTC)

Two points:

1.) Jamin Rathbun is NOT solely a musician. Please reference the links and information included about Trinity Arts Center and Trinity Arts Foundation, both organizations which were founded, and are currently operated under his direction.

2.) Judged only as a musician, Jamin has three national CD releases from a band listed in the Christian Music Encyclopedia, which has been used as a reference source for other bands already included on Wikipedia. That same band is cited on the Wikipedia pages for Dighayzoose, a band of similar notoriety, and R.E.X._Records, the label who signed and distributed the band. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Superdink (talk • contribs) 16:23, 3 January 2009 (UTC)

::1) Being a founder of non notable organisations does not make one notable. Being the founder of notable organisations does not always make one notable. No reasons have been given why his connection with these organisations make Rathbun notable.

::2) If the 3 cd releases are refering to Hot Pink Turtle, only one is their own release, the other two are compilations on which they appear. Not enough for WP:MUSIC for the band. Even less for individual menbers. The Hot Pink Turtle section of Dighayzoose does not even metion Rathbun. Dighayzoose is far from similar notoriety, look at the sources provided within the article on them and the articles on their albums. Sources which are lacking on the Rathbun article. In additioon being a member of a notable band (if Hot Pink Turtle were notable) is not sufficient for WP:MUSIC. Duffbeerforme (talk) 18:54, 3 January 2009 (UTC)

Apparently notable enough for you to find that information, nearly fifteen years after their release. = ) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Superdink (talk • contribs) 21:32, 3 January 2009 (UTC)

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