Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jane Air

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Another non-notable Russian rock group. No evidence of notability. KDS4444^Talk 15:11, 8 February 2016 (UTC)

:Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. /wiae /tlk 15:34, 8 February 2016 (UTC)

• Comment for now as the current article has concerns but this will need familiar attention the Russian Wiki particularly has information, along with the Ukraine Wiki. Notifying {{U|Wikimandia}} for analysis. SwisterTwister talk 22:02, 8 February 2016 (UTC)

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::So I had a look at the Russian Wikipedia's article: the two references provided there are both reviews of albums— the first has no link at all but purports to be from a publication called "Dark City Magazine" volume 60 (that's its official name— there is no Russian equivalent given). I was able to find http://dark-city.ru/, which I suspect is the target site, but when I searched on the keyword "Jane" none of the 19 results were for issue #60 and almost all of them were for Jane's Addiction (none of them were for Jane Air). Since "Jane Air" is the way the band's name is phrased on the Russian Wikipedia, I take this to mean that this is how it is being used in Russian (I am not sure how to write it in Cyrillic and not even the Russian Wikipedia article will tell me). The second reference does have a link— I followed it, and read the article. It is three paragraphs that essentially say, "This is some nice music"— it doesn't look like it says anything material about the band, and I didn't see any evidence that the publisher, "Icon" (that's it's name in Russian) functions with editorial oversight (which means it most likely fails reliability). The Ukrainian Wikipedia article has no references at all, and only has external links to the band's official website, official fan website, and something from Last.fm, which turns out only to be a link to another Wikipedia article on the Ukrainian Wikipedia. It looks to me like there's enough circular nothing here to feel confident standing by my proposal. It seems like it shouldn't have to be this difficult to defend the deletion of something this deletable. But there you have it. Like fish hitting ice, as they say in Russia. KDS4444^Talk 21:04, 12 February 2016 (UTC)

• Comment I was clearing out old stuff in my house this weekend, and turns out I own a copy of Jane Air's eponymous second album. I haven't a clue where I got it, and after playing two tracks I'm not a fan (if I ever was). Which isn't a reference citation of course, but it means I can confirm the band name is written in Latin letters, not Cyrillic, and the album was released on Kapkan Records. Which led me to this: [http://www.farfrommoscow.com/articles/kapkan.html] suggesting the label, at least, is notable. Does that count for anything much? Note that I barely understand Russian, and a native speaker should do better at researching this. 94.12.79.130 (talk) 19:10, 15 February 2016 (UTC)

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