Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jean Vernette

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The result was Keep. Consensus appears clear among the participating editors. I would have to agree with editors that its "difficult to establish notability for a scholar who wrote in French a generation ago" but we often achieve this through diligent WP:BEFORE. Wikigyt@lk to M£ 07:03, 4 August 2015 (UTC)

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Article does not really assert any notability. In a life of 73 years a couple of incidents are picked out (separated by 27 years) and a list of his books is given. No secondary sources are provided. Borock (talk) 20:40, 29 July 2015 (UTC)

  • Keep per WP:NACADEMICS criterion #1. This is a tricky one, and just barely crosses the notability threshold, but per these links ([https://books.google.com/books?id=DouBAgAAQBAJ&pg=PA348&lpg=PA348&dq=jean+vernette+cults&source=bl&ots=F5P_XaxKVu&sig=8exXQwr8njzLQt-l_zICQC4iiFo&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0CEEQ6AEwBmoVChMIhNjc9dKBxwIVRlU-Ch1a-gDL#v=onepage&q=jean%20vernette%20cults&f=false][https://books.google.com/books?id=pY5pAgAAQBAJ&pg=PA14&lpg=PA14&dq=jean+vernette+france&source=bl&ots=3V9bo3c8Ve&sig=KAZf7iwq_aoUxBvhftCOMAP7pbo&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0CEsQ6AEwDGoVChMImZDN-NKBxwIVgz4-Ch1qewT-#v=onepage&q=jean%20vernette%20france&f=false]) he was an expert in his field, as noted by reliable, independent sources. North of Eden (talk) 01:04, 30 July 2015 (UTC)

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  • Keep as per North of Eden. It is difficult to establish notability for a scholar who wrote in French a generation ago, but his impact is real. You can catch a glimpse of the extent to which his work is still used by scholars in this search [https://www.google.com/search?q=%22Vernette%2C+Jean%22&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8#q=%22Vernette,+Jean%22&tbm=bks].E.M.Gregory (talk) 11:33, 31 July 2015 (UTC)
  • Keep I see no real problems, certainly not after EMG's link, and I give considerable respect to the frWP on topics within the Francophone area. DGG ( talk ) 19:52, 31 July 2015 (UTC)
  • Note If the article is kept I will add material from the sources provided. That will at least make it more fair and objective. Borock (talk) 15:47, 1 August 2015 (UTC)
  • Keep -- As I read the article, he was for 27 years the French Cstholic expert on cults. That is certainly a notable contribution to scholarship, or at least potentially one. Peterkingiron (talk) 15:50, 1 August 2015 (UTC)

::The list of his books also shows that he also defended Catholicism against atheism and New Age beliefs including reincarnation and "new therapies". One of the new sources points out that he objected to some of the French government's anti-cult measures as being a potential threat to Catholic groups. He was not just an anti-cultist as the article seems to imply.Borock (talk) 16:19, 1 August 2015 (UTC)

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