Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jef Van Campen

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The result was keep. no one other then the nom suggest deletion JForget 00:34, 20 September 2009 (UTC)

=[[Jef Van Campen]]=

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Delete - Appears to fail WP:ARTIST ConcernedVancouverite (talk) 23:12, 13 September 2009 (UTC)
Keep. Solo exhibitions and awards means he meets WP:ARTIST. Most coverage seems to be in Dutch. Pburka (talk) 23:37, 13 September 2009 (UTC)

:Can you provide some of those secondary sources (even in Dutch?) please? I can't find anything that seems like a major reliable outlet mentioning his name. Thank you. ConcernedVancouverite (talk) 00:02, 14 September 2009 (UTC)

::*Sure. [http://www.nieuwsblad.be/Article/PrintArticle.aspx?ArticleID=cf19fqjh][http://books.google.com/books?id=2HiiHwAACAAJ&dq=%22Jef+Van+Campen%22+source:%22-newswire%22+source:%22-wire%22+source:%22-presswire%22+source:%22-PR%22+source:%22-press%22+source:%22-release%22+source:%22-wikipedia%22][http://books.google.com/books?id=uK7WAAAAMAAJ&q=%22Jef+Van+Campen%22+source:%22-newswire%22+source:%22-wire%22+source:%22-presswire%22+source:%22-PR%22+source:%22-press%22+source:%22-release%22+source:%22-wikipedia%22&dq=%22Jef+Van+Campen%22+source:%22-newswire%22+source:%22-wire%22+source:%22-presswire%22+source:%22-PR%22+source:%22-press%22+source:%22-release%22+source:%22-wikipedia%22]. Pburka (talk) 00:15, 14 September 2009 (UTC)

:::Thanks. But the references don't appear to be major ones. They are made in passing only. For instance the Nieuwsblad article just mentions in passing that Jef Van Campen gave away one of his paintings in a raffle. I still don't see any significant coverage meeting WP:ARTIST. Do you have anything more substantial? ConcernedVancouverite (talk) 00:23, 14 September 2009 (UTC)

:::To be more specific, is there anything that shows he is known for originating a significant new concept, theory or technique? Or that he is widely cited by his peers or successors? Or that he is known for originating a significant new concept, theory or technique? Or that he has created, or played a major role in co-creating, a significant or well-known work, or collective body of work, that has been the subject of an independent book or feature-length film, or of multiple independent periodical articles or reviews? Or that his work either (a) has become a significant monument, (b) has been a substantial part of a significant exhibition, (c) has won significant critical attention, or (d) is represented within the permanent collections of several notable galleries or museums, or had works in many significant libraries? ConcernedVancouverite (talk) 00:26, 14 September 2009 (UTC)

Keep. Here is one: http://www.exhibitionsinternational.org/create_more.asp?isbn=9076704589 A book about his life, supported by various people out of the Belgian artworld, another one: he was one of the artists invited to provide artwork for the famous Elephant Parade in Antwerp 2008 http://www.gva.be/antwerpen/zoek-de-olifant-en-win-een-diamant-van-3-000-euro.aspxand http://www.jongerenplaneet.com/v3/?q=node/292 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.225.24.201 (talk) 00:33, 14 September 2009 (UTC)

:Thanks. But that appears to be an autobiography according to this link: [http://www.bookfinder.com/dir/i/Tijdloze_Emoties/9076704589/]. That doesn't sound like an independent book. ConcernedVancouverite (talk) 00:40, 14 September 2009 (UTC)

And before I go to sleep, a few more : from one of his appearances for RWE in Brussels : http://www.rwe.com/web/cms/en/3722/rwe/rwe-group/sponsoring/culture/exhibition-archive/18-10-01-12-12-01-brussels-encounters/, Rotterdam: http://www.ostleon.be/downloads/200506sirenenr222winter200506marineschildersui.pdf, UK: http://www.blackheath-gallery.co.uk/ny2001.htm. He sometimes also teaches his art : http://www.kreatief.org/Cursussen/Aquarel.aspx, http://www.elsvandoorslaer.net/biografie.htm and http://www.sonja-rosalia-bauters.ch/Pages/artiste.htm. I suggest you engage with an admin who understands dutch, or/and art and the region before final judging the article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.225.24.201 (talk) 00:51, 14 September 2009 (UTC)
Weak keep Sources given in this discussion make a case for notability, and more are likely to be found due to the language barrier between us and his target audience. Them From Space 01:24, 14 September 2009 (UTC)
Weak keep but thoroughly rewrite to make it more realistic: the list of "solo exhibitions" is very long, but most of these are not "solo exhibitions" at all. E.g. Lineart is an art fair, other ones include regional salons and many company art exhibitions. Exhibitions in galerie Van Campen are not really noteworthy either, assuming that the gallery is run by the daughter of the artist. Considering that none of the awards he has received are of any note, and that he has apparently not had any museum exhibitions yet, this is a weak keep, thanks mainly to the book (unless it can be shown that BAI does publishing-on-demand as well, which is not clear from their website). But the current article is truly promotional, not neutral, so a rewrite is necessary. Fram (talk) 07:38, 14 September 2009 (UTC)
Keep. My next door neighbor happens to be Dutch so I asked him to translate some of the Dutch sources, and this painter

certainly seems notable from what I read. 68.45.109.136 (talk) 07:13, 15 September 2009 (UTC)

Strong keep - This is a notable and highly regarded painter in Belgium. JoJan (talk) 09:02, 15 September 2009 (UTC)

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