Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jefferson Davis Park, Washington

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This article confuses the removal of markers from Highway 99 with this later controversy, blending the timeline of both. This belongs merged into the Jefferson Davis Highway article, not as an undue separate piece. Anmccaff (talk) 21:32, 9 November 2017 (UTC)

• Keep: The highway is only tangentially related to the park. Additionally, the Jefferson Davis Highway page is attempting to be all-encompassing of all events that take place on the never official highway; the controversy of the removal of the markers is not related to the current controversies. Nihlus 21:43, 9 November 2017 (UTC)

::And yet the "unrelated" marker removal takes up the majorty of the article. Anmccaff (talk) 21:59, 9 November 2017 (UTC)

• Keep, a separate and notable subject. If there is any confusion, it should be handled by regular editing.Staszek Lem (talk) 21:52, 9 November 2017 (UTC)

::Stripping it back to what is separate from the marker removal would leave a stub of questionable notability. Anmccaff (talk) 21:59, 9 November 2017 (UTC)

:Note: This debate has been included in the list of Washington-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU^(T) 22:43, 9 November 2017 (UTC)

• Keep, a separate and notable subject. This Jefferson Davis Park is a creation from 2007 and though it centers on the Old Highway 99 marker stones; the Son of Confederate Veterans, that run established the park and operate the park, did so for the express purpose of awareness and education of the public for the contributions of Jefferson Davis to the Pacific Northwest.[https://scvpacnw.wordpress.com/jefferson-davis-park/] This has nothing to do with what the Daughters of the Confederacy intended when they established the stone markers in 1939. The controversy surrounding the park that made national news twice in August [https://www.usnews.com/news/best-states/washington/articles/2017-08-23/sons-of-confederate-veterans-clean-up-defaced-monuments](2017) and October [https://www.usnews.com/news/best-states/washington/articles/2017-10-04/confederate-monuments-near-vancouver-to-lose-historic-status](2017) further speaks to the need to include the park as a separate article. C. W. Gilmore (talk) 00:11, 10 November 2017 (UTC)

::If that is the case, then why is the majority of the article about events from before 2007, which legitimately might be covered at the JDH article? Anmccaff (talk) 00:14, 10 November 2017 (UTC)

::And, more importantly, why does [https://scvpacnw.wordpress.com/jefferson-davis-park/ the link you supplied] also concentrate on the history of the JDH? Anmccaff (talk) 00:22, 10 November 2017 (UTC)

::::First of all, these Sons of Confederate Veterans, live in the past and wish to preserve the legacy of 'the glorious cause'; so it is not unreasonable that the bulk of their website is about the past. Secondly and to your point is that this is a new story. When all traces of the Jeff Davis Highway were finally removed in 2007 from public lands, that's when the story of this park begins, in 2007. Much of this article from the lead to the ending is to give context to the vandalism, death threats and actions of Ridgefield city in seeking the removal of the markers from the Clark County Historical Registry. The city and county governments wanting to distance themselves from the park and all it stands for; in 2017, after such moved were rejected in 2007, this shift in local policy is note worthy as it not only made regional news, but national news. C. W. Gilmore (talk) 01:48, 10 November 2017 (UTC)

:Note: This debate has been included in the list of History-related deletion discussions. K.e.coffman (talk) 01:38, 10 November 2017 (UTC)

:Note: This debate has been included in the list of Geography-related deletion discussions. Coolabahapple (talk) 03:41, 10 November 2017 (UTC)

• Keep: For the reasons already stated. deisenbe (talk) 14:22, 10 November 2017 (UTC)
• Keep / snow keep – the subject is independently notable of the highway and meets WP:GNG. The Parkl is a Confederate monument; these have generated controversy in the recent years, which is likely to continue on the regional and national levels. K.e.coffman (talk) 08:44, 11 November 2017 (UTC)

Comment far from a snow keep, how is this not a WP:A10 speedy delete? It's a nearly new article which is substantially a duplicate of material in another article. Anmccaff (talk) 05:24, 16 November 2017 (UTC)

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