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Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Joel Chernoff

:The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was Delete. The "keep" arguments do not actually show that he satisfies Wikipedia's notability guidelines. For example, a mere statement that someone is "a leading light" does not constitute evidence that there is substantial coverage, nor do three single-sentence mentions in books "clinch" the notability. The editor who uses the pseudonym "JamesBWatson" (talk) 18:15, 10 June 2016 (UTC)

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  • Delete - Notability has still not been established despite nine years of trying The Zeus is Ha-Zeus (talk) 22:51, 23 May 2016 (UTC)

:Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. --Cameron11598 (Talk) 00:49, 24 May 2016 (UTC)

::To me it has - why are you so against articles about Messianic Judaism. It seems your sole focus - indicating clear bias. :: Kevinalewis : (Talk Page)/(Desk) 07:46, 24 May 2016 (UTC)

:Keep -To be a leading light in the movement - with influence on it's musical style and content, also as a focus for congregational and theological leadership - makes this person notable. :: Kevinalewis : (Talk Page)/(Desk) 09:18, 24 May 2016 (UTC)

:Note: This debate has been included in the list of United States of America-related deletion discussions. North America1000 09:44, 24 May 2016 (UTC)

  • Delete, nothing of any substance to establish notability.TheLongTone (talk) 14:22, 24 May 2016 (UTC)
  • Increased citations added - Also what causes to be notable other than to be a national leader in an international movement - with a personal international impact through his leadership roles and music. :: Kevinalewis : (Talk Page)/(Desk) 08:13, 25 May 2016 (UTC)

:Note: This debate has been included in the list of Christianity-related deletion discussions. StAnselm (talk) 08:37, 26 May 2016 (UTC)

  • Keep Cursory review of Google News sources show he's gotten international coverage for a variety of reasons in a variety of papers. GNG is met. Jclemens (talk) 09:16, 26 May 2016 (UTC)
  • Keep. Google Books clinches it with these citations: [https://books.google.com/books?id=r3hCgIZB790C&pg=PA226&dq=%22Joel+Chernoff%22&hl=en&sa=X&redir_esc=y#v=onepage&q=%22Joel%20Chernoff%22&f=false][https://books.google.com/books?id=9bbWbMGekWoC&pg=PA291&dq=%22Joel+Chernoff%22&hl=en&sa=X&redir_esc=y#v=onepage&q=%22Joel%20Chernoff%22&f=false][https://books.google.com/books?id=_3jqjSKHKcwC&pg=PA290&dq=%22Joel+Chernoff%22&hl=en&sa=X&redir_esc=y#v=onepage&q=%22Joel%20Chernoff%22&f=false] StAnselm (talk) 10:32, 26 May 2016 (UTC)

:Google books does not establish notability.TheLongTone (talk) 11:53, 27 May 2016 (UTC)

::It shows significant coverage in reliable sources, such as the Encyclopedia of Contemporary Christian Music - that means the subject passes WP:GNG. StAnselm (talk) 19:00, 27 May 2016 (UTC)

  • Delete Even with the updates, still does not establish notability. TiberiasTiberias (talk) 09:59, 27 May 2016 (UTC)

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Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, MelanieN (talk) 16:56, 30 May 2016 (UTC)

  • Delete No real claims of notability have been established. V.Putnam (talk) 22:14, 30 May 2016 (UTC)
  • Delete as my searches actually found a few links at Books and News but simply nothing noticeably convincing. SwisterTwister talk 07:26, 6 June 2016 (UTC)

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