Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/John A. Collett

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This one's a bit of a head scratcher. He appears to be a routine WWII casualty, but has a destroyer named for him. Darned if I can find out why. Aside from this [http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,802553,00.html Time magazine mention] and a couple of brief bios, I'm coming up empty. Clarityfiend (talk) 04:04, 3 April 2012 (UTC)

:Keep- "John Austin Collett was born 31 March 1908 in Omaha, Nebr., and graduated from the Naval Academy in 1929. He was killed in action during the Battle of the Santa Cruz Islands on 26 October 1942, while commanding Torpedo Squadron 10 in Enterprise (CV-6)." (Underlining mine) [http://www.history.navy.mil/danfs/c11/collett.htm] Crosses points 5 (Played an important role in a significant military event; or) & 6 (Commanded a substantial body of troops in combat; or) of Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history/Notability guide#People. Dru of Id (talk) 04:35, 3 April 2012 (UTC)

: Having a warship named after him seems sufficient to make him notable, whatever the reason.

:—WWoods (talk) 04:38, 3 April 2012 (UTC)

::Comment. A torpedo squadron isn't a substantial body of troops (otherwise we'd be up to our eyeballs in squadron commanders), nor does it say he played an important role in the battle. Clarityfiend (talk) 04:44, 3 April 2012 (UTC)

:Note: This debate has been included in the list of Military-related deletion discussions.  Gongshow ^Talk 05:19, 3 April 2012 (UTC)

:Note: This debate has been included in the list of People-related deletion discussions.  Gongshow ^Talk 05:19, 3 April 2012 (UTC)

• Redirect to the ship article - people who aren't otherwise notable who had ships named after them should probably have a (very) short blurb in the ship's article, so this makes sense. - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 06:28, 3 April 2012 (UTC)
• Redirect/Merge It may be that there's no published information about this man beyond what we have. There's not a WP article about every Medal of Honor recipient either, so having a ship named after you doesn't guarantee notability. --Colapeninsula (talk) 15:03, 3 April 2012 (UTC)
• Keep. Yup, I think people who've had major warships named after them are most definitely notable. And in answer to Colapeninsula, there certainly should be an article on every MoH recipient. The fact there isn't yet is neither here nor there. -- Necrothesp (talk) 15:50, 3 April 2012 (UTC)
• The catch is, a destroyer is not a major warship - those would be (in WW2 era) aircraft carriers, battleships, and (arguably) cruisers - but not "tin cans". - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 06:09, 4 April 2012 (UTC)
• I said major warship, not capital ship. A destroyer isn't a small patrol vessel, which is what I was getting at. -- Necrothesp (talk) 16:41, 5 April 2012 (UTC)
• Fair enough - but cruisers aren't cap ships, and no country bigger than Holeinwallistan considers a tin can a major warship. ;) - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 00:08, 7 April 2012 (UTC)
• Redirect to the ship article - only Pacific VT squadron commander notable in of themselves is Lt Cdr John C. Waldron, commander VT-8 at the Battle of Midway. Buckshot06 (talk) 22:42, 3 April 2012 (UTC)

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