Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/John Delony

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There is no substantive RS coverage of the subject. The subject authored a "Wall Street Journal best-seller" but I'm not sure what that is and whether that meets WP:AUTHOR notability. The page was created by an editor who is creating lots of promotional pages for figures related to Dave Ramsey. Thenightaway (talk) 17:47, 14 March 2025 (UTC)

• Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Authors and Texas. Shellwood (talk) 18:17, 14 March 2025 (UTC)

:The Ramsey Show is the second-most popular radio show in the US. The hosts are well known across the country and have their own podcasts that have large audiences (which you can see from their YouTube views). I created this article because Kamel's notoriety and place as a co-host on the show warranted it.

:What about this article sounded promotional? Was there too much biographical info? Are we not supposed to write that books are bestsellers? Are we not supposed to mention that certain recording artists have x amount of top 40 hits or that movies from a certain actor have made billions of dollars, for that matter? Because I've seen those in articles on this platform as well. What is the standard?

:I really want to know because I don't think this article deserves to be deleted. I'm happy to adjust to fit standards, and have attempted to do so in the past. But it seems like the "promotional" standard is based on a sliding scale.

:And I don't just edit Ramsey-related articles. I have edited and created articles on a variety of subjects from pop culture to music, American history, Disney, etc. Ramsey was just something where I saw a need and filled it. 2719Hyperion (talk) 02:50, 16 March 2025 (UTC)

• Merge to Ramsey Solutions and/or The Ramsey Show, not seeing anything which suggests that the topic is of stand alone notability. GNG is not met and I don't think that any of the SNG are either... Horse Eye's Back (talk) 17:26, 16 March 2025 (UTC)
• :On top of his two bestselling books and his role as a co-host on the second-most listened to radio show in the US, John Delony recently hit over one million subscribers on his [https://www.youtube.com/@TheDrJohnDelonyShow YouTube page]. I would argue that qualifies as notoriety, as only a relatively small percentage of YouTube pages hit that milestone.
• :These standards seem to have a lot of inconsistencies. I have seen many biographical articles that are less in depth than Delony's and the tone is very similar. I can rewrite, eliminate the "promotional" language, and resubmit for review. I don't think this article should be deleted. 2719Hyperion (talk) 01:49, 18 March 2025 (UTC)

• Delete A non-notable individual who may had achieved moderate success but not enough to meet WP:GNG. Does not belong in an encyclopedia. As 2719Hyperion should be aware, YouTube views are no measure of WP:N and material from that platform can not be used as WP:RS Variety312 (talk) 18:23, 20 March 2025 (UTC)

:• Merge Proposal to merge with The Ramsey Show: After giving this some thought and after reviewing the GNG and SNG, I'm agreeing with this nomination. The Delony article should be merged with The Ramsey Show, as Delony is best known for being a co-host of the show. I will work on merging these articles by creating a section about the hosts on The Ramsey Show article. 2719Hyperion (talk) 01:56, 21 March 2025 (UTC)

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• Merge into The Ramsey Show. This person is not really notable outside of the radio show. Bearian (talk) 02:55, 23 March 2025 (UTC)

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