Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/John Gourlay (soccer)

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Doesn't look notable, unless people can find offline significant coverage about him. Redirect to List of 1904 Summer Olympics medal winners#Football seems sensible, but worth having an AFD discussion in case anyone finds some coverage. Joseph2302 (talk) 16:08, 16 December 2024 (UTC)

• Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: People, Sportspeople, Football, Olympics, and Canada. Joseph2302 (talk) 16:08, 16 December 2024 (UTC)
• Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related deletions. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 20:25, 16 December 2024 (UTC)
• Redirect as above. GiantSnowman 21:16, 16 December 2024 (UTC)

:*Keep per arguments/sources above which show notability. GiantSnowman 19:58, 18 December 2024 (UTC)

• Redirect per nomination and GiantSnowman. ⋆｡˚꒰ঌ Clara A. Djalim ໒꒱˚｡⋆ 15:54, 17 December 2024 (UTC)

:Update: Keep per newspaper archives found by BeanieFan11, which seem to show notability. ⋆｡˚꒰ঌ Clara A. Djalim ໒꒱˚｡⋆ 14:40, 23 December 2024 (UTC)

• Keep. He was the captain of an Olympic-gold-winning football team and seems to have been considered Canada's star of his era, additionally being a top official in the country's governing football organization ([https://www.newspapers.com/image/500380807/?match=1&terms=john%20b.%20gourlay]). Here's coverage in the U.S. from the Detroit Free Press ([https://www.newspapers.com/article/detroit-free-press/161098483/]), noting him to be "probably the best known football player in Canada"; further coverage from the Free Press at his retirement ([https://www.newspapers.com/article/detroit-free-press/161098566/]) said that he "will gown down as Canada's most famous fullback" and said that he was well known in the Detroit, U.S.-area as well. [https://canadasoccer.com/profile/?id=1335&teamId=2069 Historian] Colin Jose gave him [http://www.canadiansoccerhistory.com/Great%20Teams/Galt%20FC.html ~130 words] calling him "the father of football in Galt ... One of the best known Canadian players in the United States during his era ... Recognized as the greatest full back in Ontario at the time but was also regarded as a fine captain." Here's also a bit of [https://www.newspapers.com/article/the-montreal-star/161098304/ Montreal Star] coverage regarding a dispute over his professionalism, calling him "the famous full back of the Galt Olympic champions" several years after the event. His notability appears clear: {{ping|GiantSnowman|Clariniie}} BeanieFan11 (talk) 00:32, 18 December 2024 (UTC)
• Keep per BeanieFan11. Mets WP:NOLYMPICS as a gold medalist in the 1904 Summer Olympics, in addition to the coverage found. ⁂CountHacker (talk) 01:03, 18 December 2024 (UTC)

:* WP:NOLYMPICS says {{tq|Significant coverage is likely to exist}}, that doesn't mean we should assume that it exists without checking. Joseph2302 (talk) 15:11, 23 December 2024 (UTC)

::* Of what use is a notability criterion if you absolutely have to meet GNG whether you meet the criterion or not? BeanieFan11 (talk) 16:42, 23 December 2024 (UTC)

• Keep - Per above. Clearly signficiant figure in Canadian soccer. Thanks, 04:09, 21 December 2024 (UTC)

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