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Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/John Zaffis

:The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was Keep due to improvements in the article during AFD which establishes notability. Davewild (talk) 08:38, 19 March 2008 (UTC)

=[[John Zaffis]]=

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This guy appears to not be a notable person. His claims to fame are his involvement with some demonology center (no article), and a self-published book which was deleted long ago. I see zero third party sources. R. fiend (talk) 21:50, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

  • Delete nn BanRay 23:44, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
  • Keep "This guy," as the nominator calls him is an authority on Demonology he has taken on the mantle of the world famous demonologists Ed and Lorraine Warren of which he is their nephew. He has been a guest on Coast to Coast with Art Bell worked with Malachi Martin and has appeared on many television programs including Unsolved Mysteries, Children of the Grave (for which he is also a writer), and the docu-drama The Possessed in which he plays himself. People who know anything about the subject matter of demonology would realize his notablity. Lack of sources or ignorance of importance is no reason to delete a viable article on a notable individual in his field. Dwain (talk) 15:53, 14 March 2008 (UTC)
  • Delete per WP:BIO. No indication that Zaffis "has been the subject of published secondary source material which is reliable, intellectually independent, and independent of the subject." Victoriagirl (talk) 16:36, 14 March 2008 (UTC) Keep Given Dwain's good work, I think the subject meets WP:BIO.Victoriagirl (talk) 21:44, 14 March 2008 (UTC)

::Zaffis has "been the subject of published secondary source material which is reliable," Victoriagirl. He has been written up in at least seven independent books including, Ghost Hunting: True Stories of Unexplained Phenomena from The Atlantic, The Complete Idiot's Guide to Ghosts and Hauntings, Encyclopedia of Haunted Places: Ghostly Locales from Around the World, Our Haunted Lives: True Life Ghost Encounters, and Ghost Hunters of the South. The newspaper articles, which are too many to list here, include one from a little paper called The New York Times. This is not to mention the scores of radio and television shows he has appeared on. If Coast to Coast AM is not reliable or intelligent then why is there an article on Wikipedia about the program? Dwain (talk) 18:44, 14 March 2008 (UTC)

:::Comment Very good. Why not add these references to the article? I'm more than ready to change my opinion. Victoriagirl (talk) 18:50, 14 March 2008 (UTC)

::::I have added some of these sources to the article since you pointed out they were lacking. Dwain (talk)

  • Speedy keep. After looking at the recent edits, I'd say he's certainly notable, especially so within his field. Celarnor (talk) 01:19, 15 March 2008 (UTC)

:The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.