Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jonathan Sandys

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Only claim to notability appears to be that he is the great-grandson of Winston Churchill and heads up an organisation dedicated to the ideals of WSC. Very few Google hits and what there are, are almostly entirely connected with the organisation, not about Jonathan himself. NtheP (talk) 09:12, 5 March 2010 (UTC)

• Delete as per nomination, I can find no secondary sources for him. Teapotgeorge^Talk 09:30, 5 March 2010 (UTC)
• Delete At present the only things given which could conceivably be regarded as sources are two links to the website of "Churchill’s Britain Foundation", of which Sandys is the chairman, and so is not an independent source. Searching has produced a few brief mentions in what appear to be reliable sources, but no significant coverage. Mostly I found linkedin, twitter, Wikipedia, site listing sites (eg domaintools.com), www.churchillsbritainfoundation.org, etc. JamesBWatson (talk) 11:51, 5 March 2010 (UTC)
• Comment. It may be useful for people to know that I pruned a huge amount from this article before it was taken to AfD. My understanding is that the article's creator is a relative of Mr. Sandys and actually planned to expand the huge mass she contributed. The pruned material was a glowing encomium and an exhaustive history of the subject's every move, comments on the countries he had visited, etc., all without any useful secondary sources. There may have been a pea under all those mattresses, but I doubt it. There was a suggestion that the subject will receive a medal next month that seemed to have the potential of notability; I was unable to make up my mind, so I'll take no position here. But if you want to wade through the original, it's in the edit history. Accounting4Taste:talk 15:23, 5 March 2010 (UTC)

::Comment Thanks, I had read the original before submitting this AfD including your talk comment about the medal. I don't think the award is notable and I think that with the verbiage pruned out it shows how thin and weak this article is. NtheP (talk) 16:05, 5 March 2010 (UTC)

:::Pardon me if I had seemed to suggest that you hadn't read the original, that was not my intention. I merely wanted others to be aware of the masses of material I'd pruned, that's all, in case they didn't look beyond the few remaining paragraphs. And I think "thin and weak" is a good description. Accounting4Taste:talk 17:34, 5 March 2010 (UTC)

• Delete: Unable to find any independent sources to show notability. Being related to somebody famous does not make you notable. -- BigDom 18:22, 12 March 2010 (UTC)

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