Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Joseph Rowbottom

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I came across this page when it was being added to the article Flash mob in reference to rioting and student activities at the University of Philadelphia.

• Fails just about every point of WP:BIO and doesn't truly fit into any of the categories of media, academics, or WP:ANYBIO
• The references barely mention the activities or the legacy of this person in the main context of the article and all the references appear to be University Archive based. No notable mention is made of this person outside by a third party publication.
• I [http://www.google.com/search?q=%22Joseph+Rowbottom%22&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a Google Test] shows very few results. Wikipedia and Facebook for other people with the name come up first.
• Since my original A7, an editor as gone around to various other University of Philadelphia articles to add a one or two sentence reference to this person in odd places and no context or integral contributions. Possibly disputable in their own additions to the article itself.
• Other than the last 24 hours the article has been visited very few times, averaging under 10 times per month, and likely due to the number of redirects that existed toward the article compared to the other Rowbottom articles -- particularly comparative to Jo Rowbottom, visited over 200 times a month, and a possible confusion of Joseph Rowbottom.

In my conclusion I find this article lacks any encyclopedic value. Mkdw^talk 04:52, 28 March 2010 (UTC)

:I withdraw my nomination per the changes made by User:Father Goose to the article. Mkdw^talk 22:45, 28 March 2010 (UTC)

• Merge the most relevant and sourced information into Student life at the University of Pennsylvania. Although Mr. Rowbottom himself does not appear to have engaged in any rioting at the University of Pennsylvania (note: not the University of Philadelphia), his surname apparently became synonymous with riots at the university for several generations, for some reason. (See [http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=MdMgAAAAIBAJ&sjid=3WoFAAAAIBAJ&pg=4525,4916498&dq=rowbottom+penn&hl=en], [http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=rHkSAAAAIBAJ&sjid=IvUDAAAAIBAJ&pg=2620,804821&dq=rowbottom+penn&hl=en], [http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=_7klAAAAIBAJ&sjid=CfMFAAAAIBAJ&pg=3218,779093&dq=rowbottom+penn&hl=en], [http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=3KskAAAAIBAJ&sjid=P_8FAAAAIBAJ&pg=1059,2868659&dq=rowbottom+penn&hl=en], [http://www.thecrimson.com/article/1966/12/12/pennsylvania-students-rowbottom-to-get-increased/]. These articles are from newspapers outside Philadelphia and range from 1931 to 1966.) The term "rowbottom" even made it into The New Partridge Dictionary of Slang and Unconventional English. [http://books.google.com/books?id=mAdUqLrKw4YC&pg=PA1646&dq=rowbottom+penn&cd=4#v=onepage&q=rowbottom%20penn&f=false] --Metropolitan90 (talk) 05:30, 28 March 2010 (UTC)
• Recommendation withdrawn because of changes to article. --Metropolitan90 (talk) 15:57, 30 March 2010 (UTC)
• delete or merge, no evidence of genuine notability. Being known inside an individual community doesn't mean you're actually notable unless the world at large takes note.--Crossmr (talk) 06:17, 28 March 2010 (UTC)
• Delete. There are no properly independent sources for this biography. The word Rowbottom may be suitable for a redirect to the appropriate section in Student life at the University of Pennsylvania, but the person does not look like a likely search term. Guy (Help!) 07:12, 28 March 2010 (UTC)
• Boldly rewritten and moved to Rowbottom (riot). There was insufficient sourcing to justify an article on Joseph Rowbottom, especially considering most of it was about the UPenn tradition, not Mr. Rowbottom. But there's plenty of justification for having an article on the "Rowbottom" phenomenon. I barely scratched the surface of available sources -- both those listed on [http://www.archives.upenn.edu/histy/features/traditions/rowbottom/list.html this page] and those available via Google News and Books. Hopefully this will resolve the issue to the satisfaction of all parties.--Father Goose (talk) 22:33, 28 March 2010 (UTC)
• keep per Fr Goose. Philly jawn (talk) 00:17, 29 March 2010 (UTC)
• Keep "new and improved" Rowbottom (riot). Maurreen (talk) 05:51, 30 March 2010 (UTC)
• Keep - It is improved, and now is notable. Next time don't put a AfD nomination put a improve sign. Whenaxis (talk) 12:00, 4 April 2010 (UTC)

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