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Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Josie Fitial

:The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. (non-admin closure) Ron Ritzman (talk) 00:17, 25 July 2009 (UTC)

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Non-notable wife of politician, notability is not inherited. And she has done nothing special on her own to gain herself notability. Marcusmax(speak) 02:38, 18 July 2009 (UTC)

DELETE I read the CNMI papers and did not even know of her! Though I read plenty about her husband. I also worked in CNMI politics too. I agree this article should be merged or deleted, but probably deleted. She is a quiet figure and has not contributed anything positive to the CNMI.Quidproquo1980 (talk) 06:42, 18 July 2009 (UTC)

  • Keep. Most first ladies are well known public figures. The same arguments could be given for deletion of Cherie Blair. • Anakin (talk) 10:13, 18 July 2009 (UTC)

:*Not really, Cherie Blair is notable in her own right. She was involved in a political race, has been a controversial figure etc. and has sources that can prove she has done this stuff. -Marcusmax(speak) 13:19, 18 July 2009 (UTC)

  • Keep - Fitial, like most First Ladies and Gentlmen, is important to her own local region. She has been active in charitable causes and other organizations in the islands. I will keep added additional information throughout the weekend. (I'm at the computer much this weekend). Scanlan (talk) 13:47, 18 July 2009 (UTC)

:*Im glad the locals look up to her, and I happy for her that she met 3 US presidents. However the fact still remains that without her husband there is a 99.999999% chance she wouldn't have her own article. Plenty of people have sent letters to Presidents and first ladies the only reason she got a story on it is because of her husband. Plenty of people do local charity work, in fact most firs ladies and gentleman do charity work and it only receives attention because of their spouse. I admit meeting 3 US Presidents is a monumental achievement, but what did she do with them did she just say hi and get shoved away, or did she do something notable. I would be willing to withdraw my nomination if you can find sources to indicate she has done something notable in her own right, perhaps ran for local office, caused a controversy, caused a major governmental change in her region and I will immediately reconsider. -Marcusmax(speak) 14:01, 18 July 2009 (UTC)

::The three presidents was just something I added at the end for interest. It wasn't met as the basis for article. She is notable in the CNMI, as are most first spouses in their places of residence. I'll continue to add info this weekend. Thanks! Scanlan (talk) 14:26, 18 July 2009 (UTC)

  • Note: This debate has been included in the list of Philippines-related deletion discussions. —Bluemask (talk) 03:33, 19 July 2009 (UTC)
  • Weak keep - she has gained some press, but first ladies/husbands are not pre se notable. Bearian (talk) 21:22, 20 July 2009 (UTC)
  • Comment - Additional information and sources were added yesterday. Keep Scanlan (talk) 14:31, 22 July 2009 (UTC)
  • Weak keep - Notability and importance is vague, a few more inline citations should help strengthen the article.

:The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.