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Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Justin Miller (barbershop)

:The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was redirect to Masters of Harmony. As notability is not inherited and there has been no evidence provided here of the subject being covered directly and in detail by reliable sources, the article's subject is found to not be independently notable. — Coffee // have a cup // beans // 00:11, 25 March 2015 (UTC)

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Not sure if this guy goes as notable or not. Sounds interesting, but is he notable enough for a Wikipedia page? (I put him under the DAB for Justin Miller but was not even sure what to list him as!) Wgolf (talk) 16:17, 10 March 2015 (UTC)

  • Comment The rationale for having this page is based on the existing precedent for Greg Lyne who also served as one of the Music Directors of the Masters of Harmony. Upon approval of this new article, we will link this new article to that article. Please let us know if there is a better way to disambiguate this entry (such as "barbershop music")Mfreedkin (talk) 17:00, 10 March 2015 (UTC)
  • Comment-well not sure how many barbershop quartets get a page on Wikipedia. Wgolf (talk) 17:03, 10 March 2015 (UTC)

:Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. NORTH AMERICA1000 19:24, 10 March 2015 (UTC)

:Note: This debate has been included in the list of California-related deletion discussions. NORTH AMERICA1000 19:24, 10 March 2015 (UTC)

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Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Davewild (talk) 18:43, 17 March 2015 (UTC)

  • Delete: All very well and good, but the guy just doesn't meet the GNG. Wikipedia is not for promotion of barbershop chorus leaders. (No objection to a redirect as per MelanieN) Nha Trang Allons! 16:53, 18 March 2015 (UTC)
  • Redirect' to Masters of Harmony, where he is already mentioned. He actually directs two choruses, but Masters of Harmony seems to be the more notable of the two. This article's main claim to notability is that the choruses he led won gold medals in competition - but that reflects on their notability, not his. BTW there is no reason why barbershop quartets and choruses can't be notable; the same standard of GNG applies to them as to any other musical group. --MelanieN (talk) 21:12, 19 March 2015 (UTC)

::BTW in response to Mfreedkin's note about Greg Lyne: they are not comparable. Greg Lyne has had a far more notable career than Justin Miller. Miller's main claim to fame is directing these local choruses; Lyne has an international reputation, and his direction of Masters of Harmony is purely incidental to his career. --MelanieN (talk) 21:16, 19 March 2015 (UTC)

:The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.