Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Kaukab Rizwan

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Single source in non reputed media. Not an independent in depth coverage about subject. No other online coverage which meets requirement of a biography article. Rahmatula786 (talk) 03:31, 12 May 2025 (UTC)

• Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: People, Aviation, India, and Bihar. Rahmatula786 (talk) 03:31, 12 May 2025 (UTC)
• Delete. While her achievement is laudable, "first [religion+gender] [job] from [subnational district]" doesn't confer notability, and there's no indication that WP:NPERSON is met here. - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 04:08, 12 May 2025 (UTC)
• Delete This is an article which lacks notability. Achievement is not as such which meets notability guidelines.Almandavi (talk) 06:45, 12 May 2025 (UTC)

:Keep,shes notable enough,being the first in a minority community to do so.If the problem is with notability then this is good enough,if its references,then just tell me,ill improve it Thatonewikipediadude (talk) 10:16, 12 May 2025 (UTC)

::I added more sources,can we remove the afd now?idk why you guys think that she's not notable Thatonewikipediadude (talk) 10:46, 12 May 2025 (UTC)

:::if the sources had more lasting coverage that's more then the week she became a pilot I would vote to keep Scooby453w (talk) 11:55, 12 May 2025 (UTC)

::::Gimme some time Thatonewikipediadude (talk) 16:16, 12 May 2025 (UTC)

• Delete When you need to go to such specific detail to get to the "first", it's not notable. I could be the first X coloured person from my hometown who got a degree in Y at Z and went on to become a trapeze artist. Doesn't make me notable. Also are they the first woman Muslim pilot from that area, or are they the first woman Muslim commercial airline pilot from that area? Those two things are not the same. Canterbury Tail talk 17:46, 12 May 2025 (UTC)
• :Begusarai is not your town,its the industrial and financial capital of bihar where muslims make up a large part of the pop..Unlike your town that pop. Is higher than many country and also not the first commercial,shes allover first Thatonewikipediadude (talk) 19:02, 12 May 2025 (UTC)

:::You're right. I looked up the population of Begusarai District. It's smaller than my hometown so that's even more of a confirmation of my stance. Thanks for supporting it. There is nothing to indicate they are notable other than a mention as a local feel good newspaper article similar to millions of other non-notable people. Appearing in a news story, especially a low content slow news story one like this, is not by any means an indication of notability. Canterbury Tail talk 01:46, 13 May 2025 (UTC)

:I have cleared and defined my stance,will leave ut to yall now,bye Thatonewikipediadude (talk) 19:10, 12 May 2025 (UTC)

• Delete the subject's achievements are commendable but they and the related soft-focussed coverage, all dating to mid-Sep 2022, do not rise to meeting the notability standard under WP:GNG, WP:NBIO or WP:BLP1E. Besides notability issues, note that the current and previous versions of the article contain many details (subject's birth year, her BA degree, her being a virtual mentor, her activities in Jan 2023 etc) that are not verified by the cited sources and indicate either LLM hallucinations or, more likely, COI/UPE editing. I asked the article editor for clarification but they evaded providing an explanation and are now blocked. Abecedare (talk) 20:13, 12 May 2025 (UTC)

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