Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Keven Veilleux (2nd nomination)

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The subject of this article does not appear to meet the general notability guideline or the WP:NHOCKEY guideline for ice hockey players. Onthegogo (talk) 20:13, 10 March 2011 (UTC)

• Delete Not an automatic case, and not notable enough otherwise for his own article. Mandsford 21:16, 10 March 2011 (UTC)
• Keep I have wrote the page because I've seen the French page :fr:Keven Veilleux and I thought it would be OK, but you're right, it doesn't match the WP:NHOCKEY guideline. But so far he played 59 games and counting in the AHL [http://www.eliteprospects.com/player.php?player=11402&lang=en], so he is not far away from the criteria of 100 games in the AHL. --Giskard (talk) 09:11, 11 March 2011 (UTC)

:Note: This debate has been included in the list of Ice hockey-related deletion discussions. -- • Gene93k (talk) 18:56, 11 March 2011 (UTC)

:Note: This debate has been included in the list of Sportspeople-related deletion discussions. -- • Gene93k (talk) 18:56, 11 March 2011 (UTC)

• Delete 60 pro games total does not meet WP:NHOCKEY. He can easily be recreated next season if he surpasses the 100 game threshold. ccwaters (talk) 19:51, 11 March 2011 (UTC)
• Delete Subject currently fails WP:NHOCKEY/ The player may have 61 games in the AHL currently, but will have to wait until at least sometime next season to meet the 100-game trigger for Criteria #3 of NHOCKEY. Can be recreated or restored if/when the player meets one of the qualifications of NHOCKEY. -Pparazorback (talk) 01:57, 13 March 2011 (UTC)
• Delete: I've voted to Keep in such cases when it was near-to-certain the player would achieve 100 games within the current season. It's never appropriate to do so when the player needs another season to do it ... the more so in dealing with a minor-leaguer whose entry-level contract is about to expire and who missed most of last season due to injuries. That such players - especially when their minor league scoring record is mediocre - often move on to other endeavors is axiomatic.  Ravenswing  11:27, 13 March 2011 (UTC)
• Keep Meets notability as leader in a minor league per NYT 15 May 2009 [http://slapshot.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/05/15/the-junior-report-windsor-draws-attention-with-memorial-cup-set-to-begin/?scp=3&sq=%22keven%20veilleux%22&st=cse] Top players (with playoff statistics and N.H.L. affiliations): RW Keven Veilleux (7 goals, 12 assists; Pittsburgh), Quebec Major Junior Hockey League March 2009 "offensive player of the month" per [http://www.hockeysfuture.com/articles/11033/veilleux_marshall_mimar_named_qmjhl_players_of_the_month/]. At worst he is on a cusp of notability - my suggestion is to Keep as a result. "Minor league record scoring is mediocre" is a bit of a reach as a claim. Collect (talk) 12:36, 15 March 2011 (UTC)

:*Comment: What notability criterion do you claim this meets? Certainly none of the NHOCKEY criteria.  Ravenswing  14:56, 15 March 2011 (UTC)

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