Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Kevin Petit

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The result was delete. -- Cirt (talk) 00:03, 18 March 2010 (UTC)

=[[Kevin Petit]]=

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This article was brought up as a concern at WT:MILHIST. It appears at first glance to be well-sourced, but on a closer look at the references most don't support the assertions being made (in fact, most don't even mention the subject). Shimgray has helpfully produced this breakdown (quoted from [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk%3AWikiProject_Military_history&action=historysubmit&diff=349191162&oldid=349183014 here]):

The referencing is certainly a bit weird. Let's run through it...:

Ref 1 - gives dates of Desert Storm to source a line saying he fought in it.

Ref 2 - "His platoon protected the right flank..." - sourced to a site confirming 3rd Arm Div fought, but nothing about his platoon.

Ref 3 - "...his platoon guarded the tent in Safwan" - story merely talks about the meeting, and indeed implies it was a different unit (1st Infantry) present.

Ref 4 - nothing but a captioned photo, which confirms Operation Provide Comfort existed... but nothing, again, to do with him.

Ref 5,6 - both confirm background history / unit participation but do not mention him

Ref 7 - involvement with Petraeus cited to a book review about Petraeus generally

Ref 8 - confirms who commanded the regiment, but doesn't mention him

Ref 9 - tells you what the institution does, but doesn't mention him

Ref 10 - press release about a single exercise, which doesn't mention him, used to cite his serving in Kosovo

Ref 11 - [can't access article]

Ref 12-14 - and he finally is mentioned in a source! Two news stories he's quoted in, one report in which he briefly attends a meeting.

Ref 15-17 - three articles discussing the film, doesn't mention him or give details of the unit's involvement

Ref 18,19 - [dead links]

Ref 20 - news story he's quoted in.

Ref 21 - news story about the program, doesn't mention him

Ref 22-24 - hurrah, an actual newspaper story which gives biographical details - albeit not many. "...reminding him of the dust- and blood-filled battles he had fought in the alleyways of Mogadishu" - this is the one firm fact we have about anything outside Iraq, and it's not mentioned in the article. No source for his injury.

Ref 25, 26 - news story about the new commander, doesn't mention him

Ref 26 - news story about the Afghanistan policy, doesn't mention him

Ref 27 - after a bit of digging, turns up [http://www.hallpassheroes.org/director.html this] potted biography.

Ref 28 - doesn't seem relevant

Ref 29 - [dead link]

Ref 30 - an Amazon review of a book? He does seem to appear in it, though.

Ref 31 - [dead link]

While undoubtedly an accomplished individual, LtCol Petit doesn't automatically qualify for notability per WP:MILPEOPLE and doesn't seem to have the required coverage in reliable secondary sources that would pass WP:BIO. Delete? EyeSerene^talk 13:36, 11 March 2010 (UTC)

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Military-related deletion discussions. —AustralianRupert (talk) 14:00, 11 March 2010 (UTC)

Delete, per nom. Insufficient specific and detailed coverage of him by independent reliable sources. Does not pass WP:BIO. Nsk92 (talk) 14:47, 11 March 2010 (UTC)

Delete, per nom. Well written, and I have a sneaky suspeicion that this is an alturistic rather than deliberately deceptive contribution. But it isn't notable. EyeSerene, I was going to notify the primary contributor as they didn't seem to have been told, then I noticed that you had informed them. Possibly because of the redirect, but the message doesn't seem to show up... Ranger Steve (talk) 15:17, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
Thanks Steve for catching that - I use Twinkle to list AfDs and assumed the notice to the article author had been posted correctly (which it had, but the redirect was overriding it). Fixed now anyway. EyeSerene^talk 17:46, 11 March 2010 (UTC)

Delete per nom. Even if the references weren't in question, he doesn't seem to have sufficient notability. bahamut0013^words _deeds 15:40, 11 March 2010 (UTC)

Delete I think Ranger Steve is right about this seeming to be a more altruistic happening, but altruism aside, there's little to no notability in this article, and the breakdown of the list of sources provided by Shimgray shows it to be a significant issue.Cromdog (talk) 15:43, 11 March 2010 (UTC)

Delete. I don't think the references are enough to show notability. Eastmain (talk • contribs) 15:55, 11 March 2010 (UTC)

Delete per nom. David Underdown (talk) 16:28, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
Delete WP:PERNOM. JBsupreme (talk) 18:09, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
Delete As demonstrated by Shimgray, Lt-Col Petit doesn't meet WP:BIO. Nick-D (talk) 22:19, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
Delete per nom. Buckshot06 (talk) 22:22, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
Delete per nom. (GregJackP (talk) 23:00, 11 March 2010 (UTC))
Delete Even with GOOD references he would not meet notability.--Looper5920 (talk) 01:14, 13 March 2010 (UTC)
Strong delete per WP:SNOW and the nom's excellent research of the sources. Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • ^{(Many otters • One bat • One hammer)} 19:50, 13 March 2010 (UTC)

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