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Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Khazarian Rovas

:The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. Angr (talk) 08:24, 2 July 2011 (UTC)

=[[Khazarian Rovas]]=

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This article is one of a series of Original Research articles being promoted by the user who created this article. Note that the source documents include a new 2011 publication by Gábor Hosszú along with a proposal to encode the Old Hungarian script by the same author. The existence of the script "Carpathian Basin Rovas" is not established in the literature, nor is the "Carpathian Rovas" fictions. See the user's many contributions on this at: [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Rovasscript] -- Evertype·✆ 20:28, 25 June 2011 (UTC)

:Note: This debate has been included in the list of Language-related deletion discussions. — Logan Talk Contributions 21:09, 25 June 2011 (UTC)

  • Delete -- all searches for "Khazarian Rovas" seem to lead back to Gábor Hosszú, who appears to be the author of this article. "Khazarian Rovas" is not an accepted script, and its existence as a separate entity is not supported by any reliable sources. BabelStone (talk) 22:30, 25 June 2011 (UTC)
  • Delete I ran across these a few days ago and was concerned that they seemed to be original research not meeting our guidelines. Dougweller (talk) 10:30, 26 June 2011 (UTC)
  • Restore -- Until now, all the ideas, opinions and thesises conflicting the "Medieval constructed Old Hungarian - Hungarian Runic" fictions have been systematically deleted from the Wikipedia by its promoters. As the preparations are ready not only to publish the newest results and scientific works about the Rovas scripts but to share in several languages and pages, the former cenzorship are no more tolerated. For the record. --Rovasinfo (talk) 23:03, 26 June 2011 (UTC) — Rovasinfo (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
  • Delete -- appears to only be a self-promotional article about a work of original research. Sockpuppetry makes the case doubly. Vanisaac (talk) 21:30, 26 June 2011 (UTC)
  • Delete with prejudice, this is just WP:FRINGE nationalist crankery. Then create protected redirects to the existing Old Hungarian script (which is a valid topic, but which needs to be watched closely for additions of cranky nationalist bullshit). --dab (𒁳) 09:11, 27 June 2011 (UTC)
  • :Hear, hear. You should see how the corresponding article on hu.wiki has been marred by such additions. -- Evertype·✆ 09:36, 27 June 2011 (UTC)
  • Delete I'm more inclined to take [http://researcharchive.vuw.ac.nz/bitstream/handle/10063/674/article.pdf?sequence=3 this article] from an anthropology journal as an assessment of this invented script and associated invented history, than the publications which have been spammed by the author and his fellow enthusiasts. Extract:

::"Hungarian rune-writing enthusiasts are a self-selecting group with a distinct nationalist ideology emphasizing autochthony and antiquity. They promote a national myth through popular cultural products, propaganda tracts, and even a semi-scholarly journal. Their social composition resembles those of other modern nationalist movements; they even have their own diaspora in North America. Hungarian rune-writers invent traditions and imagine communities..."

:::- Maxwell, Alexander. "Contemporary Hungarian Rune-Writing: Ideological Linguistic Nationalism within a Homogenous Nation", Anthropos, 99: 2004, pp. 161-175

:Ironically, the movement itself is potentially notable enough for its own article, as long as its ideas are not presented as fact. Voceditenore (talk) 09:27, 1 July 2011 (UTC)

:: Why you cite an article, which is totally unrelated to my works? My work is building these Rovas-related Wikipedia articles based on acknowledged scholars. Please, re-consider your position. Thanks. -Rovasscript (talk) 15:02, 1 July 2011 (UTC)

  • Do not delete since this article collects valuable scientific results of officially acknowledged scholars. The existence of the Khazarian Rovas inscriptions is a well-known fact in the Paleography. Please, consider that this article does not violate any rule of the Wikipedia. Thanks. -Rovasscript (talk) 15:05, 1 July 2011 (UTC)

:The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.