Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Kivi (board game)

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This article was written several years ago and is on a questionable game that merely won a single obscure award (multiple other insignificant games, such as Otrio, won this award, so if this is included on WP so should those other games, also, while Alexa is unreliable, it lists the website's traffic count in around 10,000,000th, which is very low). It does not seem that it has multiple reliable, independent sources, with no reviews or magazine articles. The only other source I could find apart from this single ref is BGG (an unreliable user-generated blog) which had just 91 ratings for this game. From my perspective, this article might not satisfy notability. This is only my second AfD, so thanks for your time and help. Cheers. VickKiang (talk) 01:20, 24 March 2022 (UTC)

• Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Games-related deletion discussions. VickKiang (talk) 01:20, 24 March 2022 (UTC)
• [https://www.lautapeliopas.fi/peliarvostelut/kivi/] is another source that seems fairly strong. Given the language and limits of Google Translate, I'm unsure if it's reliable. Hobit (talk) 15:41, 24 March 2022 (UTC)

: Thanks for your replies, the source is certainly helpful. I am tentative of its reliability, as, on its about page, it suggests it is based on a book (which I can not seem to find on Google) and another obscure website. It states that it has an editorial chief who seems credible, but also assistants that need to write Finnish well, have a responsible and prompt attitude, as well as include visuals, but have no noted expertise, and am unsure if the editor-in-chief has to review each publication. It also links to the unreliable BGG. So should additional consideration apply for the reliability of this? Furthermore, I am unsure if the previous award is an RS, it seems rarely mentioned. Thanks for your time and help. VickKiang (talk) 22:32, 24 March 2022 (UTC)

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::Not sure if it helps, but the inventor briefly mentions Kivi in this article.

::[https://mojo-nation.com/prolific-inventor-maureen-hiron-ideas-daftest-thing-game-designer-can/ Prolific inventor Maureen Hiron on having ideas – and the daftest thing a game designer can do | Mojo Nation (mojo-nation.com)] Koppite1 (talk) 18:27, 3 April 2022 (UTC)

:::I'd seen that, worth linking to in the article, not clear it helps much with WP:N. Hobit (talk) 16:38, 5 April 2022 (UTC)

• Comment [https://www.lautapeliopas.fi/peliarvostelut/kivi/ this] seems to be the only source that's substantive, but other than that, a Google and a Google News search both do not show a single published source and instead only trivial mentions, plus [https://boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/35790/viisasten-kivi] [https://boardgames.com/boardgame/kivi] [https://stragoo.cz/en/produkt/kivi/] which don't seem to satisfy Wikipedia's standards for notability and reliable sources. GNG is so far not satisfied, despite the content otherwise being verifiable.—Mythdon (talk • contribs) 17:17, 5 April 2022 (UTC)

• Delete. What coverage exists is not enough to establish notability; passing mentions are not enough. Lkb335 (talk) 18:18, 5 April 2022 (UTC)

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