Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Kool DJ Dee

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Semi-advertorialized article about a hip hop musician, not properly sourced as passing WP:NMUSIC. The main attempt at a notability claim is that he "is credited with having the first crossfade mixer in the Bronx", which might be valid if it were properly sourced to media coverage to establish it as significant, but is in no way "inherently" notable enough to override the absence of valid sourcing -- but the only source here is the proprietary website of an online store selling Kool DJ Dee merch, which is obviously not independent third party coverage of him.
Nothing here is "inherently" notable enough to exempt him from having to have far, far better sourcing than just his own self-created web presence. Bearcat (talk) 12:45, 20 September 2023 (UTC)

• Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Bands and musicians and New York. Bearcat (talk) 12:45, 20 September 2023 (UTC)
• Merge to a subsection in the history of hip hop might be in order. I find only trivial mentions of this person [https://books.google.ca/books?id=xVkRDgAAQBAJ&pg=PT21&dq=%22Kool+DJ+Dee%22+-wikipedia&hl=en&newbks=1&newbks_redir=0&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjp08fjn7mBAxUfETQIHT-ABV8Q6AF6BAgKEAI#v=onepage&q=%22Kool%20DJ%20Dee%22%20-wikipedia&f=false], [https://books.google.ca/books?id=epwRDAAAQBAJ&pg=PA323&dq=%22Kool+DJ+Dee%22+-wikipedia&hl=en&newbks=1&newbks_redir=0&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjp08fjn7mBAxUfETQIHT-ABV8Q6AF6BAgFEAI#v=onepage&q=%22Kool%20DJ%20Dee%22%20-wikipedia&f=false] and [https://books.google.ca/books?id=ih8vEAAAQBAJ&pg=PA118&dq=%22Kool+DJ+Dee%22+-wikipedia&hl=en&newbks=1&newbks_redir=0&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjp08fjn7mBAxUfETQIHT-ABV8Q6AF6BAgIEAI#v=onepage&q=%22Kool%20DJ%20Dee%22%20-wikipedia&f=false]. Oaktree b (talk) 13:05, 20 September 2023 (UTC)
• :He's even mentioned in a few items in Gscholar, mostly name drops, but a law journal among others, discussing the legality of sampling music tracks. Oaktree b (talk) 13:06, 20 September 2023 (UTC)
• :I agree with Oaktree on the merge idea. He has contributed to hip hop but he doesn't have the independent sources or media coverage to warrant his own Wikipedia page. Maybe a merge with a page on early hip hop pioneers? Hiphopsavedmylife (talk) 02:34, 23 September 2023 (UTC)

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Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Stifle (talk) 08:15, 28 September 2023 (UTC)

• Delete: Fails GNG. Is a pioneer really a pioneer if no-one has given him significant coverage calling him a pioneer in the past 50 years? Macktheknifeau (talk) 18:19, 28 September 2023 (UTC)

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Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Hey man im josh (talk) 17:57, 5 October 2023 (UTC)

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Relisting comment: Final relist. If you would like to see a selective Merge here, please supply a target article and a particular section would be very helpful.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 23:36, 12 October 2023 (UTC)

• Selective merge to Hip hop music#Origins.-KH-1 (talk) 00:54, 13 October 2023 (UTC)
• :That seems ok. Oaktree b (talk) 15:55, 13 October 2023 (UTC)
• Merge with Hip hop music#Origins as an WP:ATD-M Lightburst (talk) 01:34, 19 October 2023 (UTC)

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