Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Kyle Hill

=[[:Kyle Hill]]=

:{{la|1=Kyle Hill}} – (View AfDView log | edits since nomination)

:({{Find sources AFD|title=Kyle Hill}})

I came across this article whilst looking for the YouTube educator. (who apparently doesn't have an article at this time) Asides from a few external links, there appears to be only one source for this biographical article about a basketball player. I suggest draftification unless users performing WP:BEFORE searches can find sufficient sources to expand and rescue this article. – MrPersonHumanGuy (talk) 22:59, 25 May 2025 (UTC)

::Withdrawn. When I hastily made my nomination, I assumed the article would be held to the same (or similarly high) notability standards as biographical articles for YouTubers like J. J. McCullough, Mr. Beat and Sambucha, and other sportspeople like Armand Biniakounou and Patrick Chiwala. (I don't really care as much about these two, just thought I'd mention them as examples) Nonetheless, I take away the following from this:

::* Articles on sportspeople are held to some standards, but apparently those standards may not be as high as the standards for articles about influencers. (I might have run with a fallacy here)

::* If I had wanted to bring other editors' attention to an article, I could've just tagged it as needing "immediate attention", but that can only be done through certain WikiProject banners. In my experience, tagging an article for "immediate attention" on its talk page ironically seems less effective (than an AfD nomination) at drawing a reasonable amount of attention to an article within a reasonable amount of time.

::Nonetheless, as an inclusionist, I'd be satisfied to see the article kept. Feel free to close this discussion as speedy keep at any time. – MrPersonHumanGuy (talk) 11:20, 26 May 2025 (UTC)

:::What an incredibly passive-aggressive withdrawal. Rikster2 (talk) 19:49, 26 May 2025 (UTC)

::::Yes. Furthermore, there's a delete !vote, so it's not able to be withdrawn anyways. SportingFlyer T·C 19:59, 26 May 2025 (UTC)

Delete, as a solitary reliable source in a biography of a living person, over the course of 17.8 years, does not an article make, nor begin to meet muster for Wikipedia:Notability. — Fourthords | =Λ= | 23:30, 25 May 2025 (UTC)
:A quick glance at the sources cited in an article, does not a WP:BEFORE search make... or something something. JTtheOG (talk) 23:46, 29 May 2025 (UTC)
Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Sportspeople, Basketball, Bosnia and Herzegovina, Croatia, France, Greece, Italy, Serbia, Spain, Georgia (U.S. state), and Illinois. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 01:14, 26 May 2025 (UTC)
Keep This is an incredibly lazy nomination that relies on others to do the work on behalf of the nominator. As Hill was a prominent enough basketball player in Europe, I was able to farm [https://web.archive.org/web/20100109114314/http://www.diarioinformacion.com/secciones/noticia.jsp?pRef=2009061900_6_900544__Deportes-Kyle-Hill-seguira-Lucentum] [https://www.marca.com/2010/03/01/baloncesto/acb/1267441983.html] from other languages, [https://jg-tc.com/sports/kyle-hill-was-quite-the-thrill-for-eastern/article_381d2e8a-4bc1-56d4-a4f5-e4e131eaf7af.html] is a good article and [https://www.057info.hr/sport/2010-03-01/kyle-hill-potpisao-za-hemofarm/] [https://archive.sportando.basketball/it/coppe/lega-adriatica/6118/kyle-hill-firma-per-l-hemofarm.html] are other sources. Not all of these are SIGCOV but coverage is easily found, and we don't draftify source-deficient articles if the subject is notable. SportingFlyer T·C 01:23, 26 May 2025 (UTC)
Keep Another source. [https://www.newspapers.com/article/herald-and-review/173149548/] Passes WP:NBASKETBALL. Anyone who is selected in an NBA draft is going to have coverage. ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 02:45, 26 May 2025 (UTC)
It doesn't look like the nominator saw themselves as the person addressed by the text of WP:BEFORE, but that is how we conventionally mean it - you are supposed to do some due diligence before nominating, as opposed to nominating and expecting others to do it. We're all volunteers, and it's fair to expect some investment of time up front given that you expect others to do some investment of time to then double-check that and back you up. Likewise, a lack of {{tl|inline citations}} (and references being merely links) is a cleanup issue, not a reason for deletion. More fundamentally, if the main thing you wanted is an article about the youtuber, just write one at a disambiguated title, like Kyle Hill (YouTuber). --Joy (talk) 08:36, 26 May 2025 (UTC)
Keep per sources by WikiOriginal-9. Rikster2 (talk) 00:41, 27 May 2025 (UTC)
Keep. Meets WP:GNG, WP:BASIC, and WP:NBASKETBALL #1, per the sources provided above by SportingFlyer and WikiOriginal-9. The article could use some improvement, but deletion is not cleanup. Ejgreen77 (talk) 01:16, 28 May 2025 (UTC)
Keep per WP:NBASKETBALL (apparently something meaningful still there).—Bagumba (talk) 09:27, 28 May 2025 (UTC)
Keep: Silly nom apparently done in bad faith. I've added SIGCOV. JTtheOG (talk) 23:11, 28 May 2025 (UTC)