Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Kyohei Hagiwara

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MMA fighter fails WP:NMMA (no evidence of ever ranking in world top 10 for division) and WP:NSPORT/WP:GNG for lack of WP:SIGCOV. Coverage in article (and in WP:BEFORE search) is routine match coverage and/or non-independent coverage on the website of his fighting federation. Dclemens1971 (talk) 16:36, 3 December 2024 (UTC)

• Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Sportspeople, Martial arts, and Japan. Dclemens1971 (talk) 16:36, 3 December 2024 (UTC)
• Delete No significant independent coverage. Match results are not significant and articles on Rizin's website are not independent. Fightmatrix has his current world ranking at #524, so he's not close to meeting WP:NMMA. Papaursa (talk) 17:41, 4 December 2024 (UTC)

:Keep there seems to be independent written match reporting (as opposed to just results) for some of his fights on Asian MMA - example [https://asianmma.com/kyohei-hagiwara-stops-shoji-maruyama-in-the-second-round/ Here] I dont know enough about MMA coverage to know if this counts as significant coverage or not, but it seems like several taken together might… as well as plenty of Japanese sources if you search using his name in Kanji - [https://news.yahoo.co.jp/articles/b7c7d303a59ec4698c621813b33def383ef0602f This article of example] for his fighting, and [https://www.tokyo-sports.co.jp/articles/-/318477 This article] as an example of the coverage around his domestic violence scandal. All in all there seems to be enough coverage to satisfy general notability, and then it’s just a matter of someone adding the information from those sources to the article and citing them properly. Absurdum4242 (talk) 16:22, 8 December 2024 (UTC)

::Even independent match reporting is not WP:SIGCOV of the individuals in the matches; see WP:NOTROUTINE. Dclemens1971 (talk) 15:39, 11 December 2024 (UTC)

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Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, — Benison (Beni · talk) 17:31, 10 December 2024 (UTC)

• Weak keep: based on the comment above... The first article seems fine, second one is rather brief coverage. Oaktree b (talk) 21:24, 10 December 2024 (UTC)

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Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Owen× ☎ 17:51, 17 December 2024 (UTC)

Comment Both of the articles mentioned by Absurdum4242 are recaps of RIZIN 48 and focus on two things: Hagiwara's second 3 fight losing streak in his last 7 fights and the domestic abuse he was accused of that same day. His current ranking as the #549 featherweight by figthmatrix.com clearly doesn't show WP notability. I don't see how multiple sources reporting on the same fight card results with both reports mentioning charges being filed meets WP:GNG. It's clearly not a big enough event to provide notability on its own. The "no comments" or "we don't know" from fight officials does nothing to increase notability. Papaursa (talk) 03:06, 19 December 2024 (UTC)

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