Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Lakewood Elementary School (Dallas, Texas)

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Non-notable elementary school. Original author contends blue-ribbon award is applicable for notability. Three schools in the district were given blue-ribbon, which further begs the question,"Then what is notable about it?" Paranormal Skeptic (talk) 20:02, 24 September 2008 (UTC)

:Delete or Merge as per nom. unless otherwise notability can be found (ie building has historical significance, first school in the district, or state to achieve such an award, etc.) Else, we can expect 4000 elementary schools per year being added into WP Else we can expect all 4000 such schools to be added as well. This award isn't a Nobel Prize or anything. In WNY pretty much every school in the Buffalo Public School system deserves an article, do to at one point in time or another receiving this award or one similar. Paranormal Skeptic (talk) 20:19, 24 September 2008 (UTC)

• Keep - This is what is notable about the Blue Ribbon award: "It is considered the highest honor a school can achieve" (as quoted from: "[http://www.journalinquirer.com/site/news.cfm?newsid=17475750&BRD=985&PAG=461&dept_id=161556&rfi=6 CIBA cited as one of the best by Education Department], Journal Inquirer, November 16, 2006. "The Blue Ribbon award is given only to schools that reach the top 10 percent of their state's testing scores over several years or show significant gains in student achievement. It is considered the highest honor a school can achieve."" and "Viers Mill School Wins Blue Ribbon; School Scored High on Statewide Test; The Washington Post. September 29, 2005 "For their accomplishments, all three schools this month earned the status of Blue Ribbon School, the highest honor the U.S. Education Department can bestow upon a school."" WhisperToMe (talk) 20:05, 24 September 2008 (UTC)
• Plus, you may want to look at the AFD result of Memorial Drive Elementary School - Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Memorial_Drive_Elementary_School WhisperToMe (talk) 20:06, 24 September 2008 (UTC)
• Keep - a Blue Ribbon school, which consensus has determined to be notable, with plenty of sources available to meet WP:N. TerriersFan (talk) 21:12, 24 September 2008 (UTC)

:*Perhaps look at this example: West Hertel Academy(Elementary) - Blue Ribbon Winner (Throw in the ref, it's there in the PDF for the Blue Ribbon List). Now the school is closed. (End Article). Delete, or hope to expand it? How can Blue Ribbon award be the only reason for notability? Paranormal Skeptic (talk) 22:06, 24 September 2008 (UTC)

::*First of all, some objective touchstone is needed to guide notability and for elementary schools in the US, through many discussions, this seems a reasonable one. However, Blue Ribbon status is not the only claim to notability; there are multiple reliable sources that meet WP:N. Unfortunately, adding them is not easy since they are mostly behind paywalls but they are there. Notability is not temporary; which is why notability does not cease on the death of the subject or the closure of the organisation. TerriersFan (talk) 22:24, 24 September 2008 (UTC)

:::* The only references provided are articles relating to it getting awarded a Blue Ribbon. This would indicate the only notability it meets is getting a Blue Ribbon. Paranormal Skeptic (talk) 22:33, 24 September 2008 (UTC)

• Note: This debate has been included in the list of Schools-related deletion discussions. —TerriersFan (talk) 21:17, 24 September 2008 (UTC)
• Note: This debate has been included in the list of Texas-related deletion discussions. -- Fabrictramp | talk to me 00:04, 25 September 2008 (UTC)
• Keep - My thoughts on the blue ribbon award and why it meets notability requirements can be found here. --Jh12 (talk) 00:58, 25 September 2008 (UTC)
• Keep as subject has on-topic coverage in the Dallas Morning News, the Houston Chronicle and other reliable third-party sources plus there are more sources to be mined about the school's award-winning teachers [http://nl.newsbank.com/nl-search/we/Archives?p_product=DM&p_theme=dm&p_action=search&p_maxdocs=200&p_topdoc=1&p_text_direct-0=0ED3DB8400EC3250&p_field_direct-0=document_id&p_perpage=10&p_sort=YMD_date:D&s_trackval=GooglePM], a 1987 visit from Lynne Cheney [http://nl.newsbank.com/nl-search/we/Archives?p_product=DM&p_theme=dm&p_action=search&p_maxdocs=200&p_topdoc=1&p_text_direct-0=0ED3CF1AF1484C81&p_field_direct-0=document_id&p_perpage=10&p_sort=YMD_date:D&s_trackval=GooglePM], controversies over busing [http://nl.newsbank.com/nl-search/we/Archives?p_product=DM&p_theme=dm&p_action=search&p_maxdocs=200&p_topdoc=1&p_text_direct-0=0ED3D05F785B79D1&p_field_direct-0=document_id&p_perpage=10&p_sort=YMD_date:D&s_trackval=GooglePM], and much more. - Dravecky (talk) 04:18, 25 September 2008 (UTC)
• Dravecky, the one about the teacher awards has to do with the Lakewood Elementary in Euless. I haven't determined which Lakewood Lynne Cheney visited (a DMN subscriber can help!). But the last one does have to do with the Dallas school and that should be enough for notability. :) WhisperToMe (talk) 15:29, 25 September 2008 (UTC)
• Keep seems fine to me given all the awards and broad coverage. JBsupreme (talk) 07:00, 25 September 2008 (UTC)

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