Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Languages of European leaders
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The result was delete. Liz Read! Talk! 15:49, 24 January 2023 (UTC)
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Mainly WP:OR for a topic which has received little or no attention as a group. The "no"s are unreferenced and often incorrect (De Croo speaks German, Macron speaks some German) and in many cases a simple yes/no is insufficient (people may be able to read or understand a language, but not comfortable or fluent enough to speak it publicly). Fram (talk) 10:08, 17 January 2023 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Politicians, Language, and Europe. Fram (talk) 10:08, 17 January 2023 (UTC)
- Comment somwhat conflicted here - grounds for TNT, no doubt there is abundant OR. However, mistakes can be rectified (Aliyev speaks Russian; why no Putin? who's fluent in German). There's is sourcing to cover the issue of world leaders and second languages (eg [https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2014/06/05/narendra-modi-may-join-the-list-of-world-leaders-who-refuse-to-speak-english/] [https://www.theguardian.com/education/2014/sep/25/polyglots-and-insults-how-our-european-leaders-use-language]) so there's an argument that NLIST can be satisfied...possibly a selective merge to List of multilingual world leaders? Regards, --Goldsztajn (talk) 11:47, 17 January 2023 (UTC)
- :Putin speaks English and German. Thiscouldbeauser (talk) 20:36, 17 January 2023 (UTC)
- :Yes, I think List of multilingual world leaders might work better, actually. Thiscouldbeauser (talk) 20:37, 17 January 2023 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. Fails WP:NLIST. Clarityfiend (talk) 22:04, 17 January 2023 (UTC)
- Delete while what's here may be actual facts I just don't see the utility of this article. The information could be added to the articles for these people. Lamona (talk) 16:58, 21 January 2023 (UTC)
- Delete: A conglomerate of sources, none of which deal with the subject, is synthesis which is original research. -- Otr500 (talk) 22:05, 21 January 2023 (UTC)
- Strong delete, not only is this WP:SYN, it's also basically unverifiable, as your average Englishman and Belgian are likely to have very different working definitions of "can speak" which is exacerbated by collating self-published proclamations of individuals' abilities. Charles III claiming to speak Welsh just because he did a speech at a castle half a century ago is a very different "fact" from Alexander de Croo claiming not to speak German (if indeed he does claim that). With that in mind the list is misleading and not particularly informative. – filelakeshoe (t / c) 🐱 10:37, 24 January 2023 (UTC)
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