Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Lauren Passarelli

:{{la|Lauren Passarelli}} – (View AfDView log{{int:dot-separator}} [https://tools.wmflabs.org/jackbot/snottywong/cgi-bin/votecounter.cgi?page=Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Lauren_Passarelli Stats])

:({{Find sources AFD|Lauren Passarelli}})

created as an WP:autobiography, can't find any reliable sources to support this article. Rusf10 (talk) 02:33, 6 December 2017 (UTC)

:Note: This debate has been included in the list of Academics and educators-related deletion discussions. ^{Babymissfortune} 02:52, 6 December 2017 (UTC)

:Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. ^{Babymissfortune} 02:52, 6 December 2017 (UTC)

:Note: This debate has been included in the list of Women-related deletion discussions. ^{Babymissfortune} 02:53, 6 December 2017 (UTC)

:Note: This debate has been included in the list of New Jersey-related deletion discussions. ^{Babymissfortune} 02:53, 6 December 2017 (UTC)

• Delete Not notable as a musician and I am not sure if guitar professor at Berklee College of Music fulfills WP:NACADEMICS. References to "Lauren Passarelli" seem to be passing mentions and I am unable to find in-depth coverage in reliable sources. Hrodvarsson (talk) 03:05, 6 December 2017 (UTC)
• Keep -- "first woman to graduate from Berklee College of Music as a guitar performance major" seems a weak, but passable claim of signficance. A later career academic who had a number of notable students. Although I would probably stubbify the article, keeping mostly the lead. K.e.coffman (talk) 03:06, 6 December 2017 (UTC)
• Keep Per the reliable and verifiable sources in the article, Passarelli is "the first woman to graduate the guitar performance program in 1982, the first female faculty member of the guitar department in 1984 and the first female to be promoted to full professor in the department in 2009" at Berklee College of Music, a more than credible claim of notability. Alansohn (talk) 03:51, 6 December 2017 (UTC)
• Comment- The "first woman" arguments are really weak. If she was the first woman to graduate from Berklee College then maybe it would make her notable. But "first guitar major"? Do we also need articles for the first female piano major and first female violin major? The only real news coverage of her I could find was a single quote from her in a CBS news article about the Beatles.--Rusf10 (talk) 05:30, 6 December 2017 (UTC)
• Keep As to the "first woman" part, it looks more like a LinkedIn profile but a passable claim. Her discography and career sections are acceptable as well. Ernestchuajiasheng (talk) 11:01, 6 December 2017 (UTC)
• Keep As far as "first woman" being used you have to take into account the year this happened.

In 1982 it was a big deal for that time, as well as 1984 being the first female guitar instructor and both occurred. Lsurber (talk) 4:09, 6 December 2017 (UTC)

• Comment- It should be noted that Lsurber is a single purpose account Wikipedia:SPA that has contributed heavily to this article and likely has a conflict of interest here.--Rusf10 (talk) 01:34, 7 December 2017 (UTC)
• Comment Yes, I have contributed heavily with everything linked. I do not add things that are not true. My comment is because I do not think the phrase "first woman" is "weak" and that the decade it took place in should be considered. I would make a comment on anyone's page regarding this if I felt it was appropriate." Lsurber (talk) 4:09, 6 December 2017 (UTC)

::My point was that you've been here for about four years and have contributed to this article and little else. It seems that you may eithier be the subject of the article or someone closely associated with her. If you have a conflict of interest, you should disclose it, see Wikipedia:COI. As for the notability, I still believe that simply being the first female to graduate with a certain major (as opposed to the school as a whole) is not notable by itself regardless of time period, but I'm open to other opinions.--Rusf10 (talk) 01:56, 7 December 2017 (UTC)

• It would help to put a couple of good citations to sources with substantial coverage of her in the beginning of the article. FloridaArmy (talk) 21:47, 8 December 2017 (UTC)
• Comment' According to WP:PROF,m, academic who work in the practice of one of the arts are judged by the standard of that art, not by the standard for researchers. This corresponds to the way academic faculty in those fields are appointed, where the MFA or equivalent professional degree is the highest degree, not a research doctorate . DGG ( talk ) 02:15, 9 December 2017 (UTC)

,

• Keep - She seems to be a pioneer in her field, especially in the early 1980s. Scanlan (talk) 14:20, 26 December 2017 (UTC)
• Comment - I'm troubled by the number of deletion proposals that seem to be focused specifically on Teaneck, New Jersey, as well as a handful of other specific communities in NJ and New York. (Clinton, Hamilton Township, Rumson). Just glancing at the New Jersey deletion proposals, in addition to Lauren Passarelli listed here, you as have Rabbi Howard Jachter, Rabbi Steven Weil, businessman Bill Zanker up for deletion - all residents of Teaneck - as well as the previous proposed deletions of the Mayor of Teaneck list and nearly all of its mayors - all proposed by the same user. I'm sure I could find more if I had more time. This seems troubling and we should proceed with caution with any of these deletions. Scanlan (talk) 14:02, 26 December 2017 (UTC)

::That's because you and your two buddies have created hundreds of unnecessary articles over the years. You can choose to believe alansohn's wacky theory that I hate Teaneck or you can look at the facts. Can you explain to me why there are 206 articles on mayors from New Jersey (more than any other) and California (a much bigger state) is only at 196? What is troubles me is there is such a low standard for inclusion here.--Rusf10 (talk) 16:20, 26 December 2017 (UTC)

{{clear}}

:The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.