Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Leteisha Simmonds

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I do not think this chessplayer is already notable. Maybe in a few years when she has won major titles or tournaments, or played in an olympiad, but not now. SyG (talk) 09:03, 26 March 2011 (UTC)

• Delete. I'm afraid that national girls' championships are not sufficient for notability, since they are exclusive based on nationality, gender, and age, thus excluding the strongest players. The FIDE rating of 1628 [http://ratings.fide.com/card.phtml?event=3208699] indicates a level comparable to an average amateur tournament player, and while this a good achievement for a 15-year old, it is well below the ratings that the subjects of most of our chess bios have. Sjakkalle (Check!) 09:57, 26 March 2011 (UTC)

:Note: This debate has been included in the list of Australia-related deletion discussions. -- • Gene93k (talk) 15:54, 26 March 2011 (UTC)

:Note: This debate has been included in the list of Sportspeople-related deletion discussions. -- • Gene93k (talk) 15:54, 26 March 2011 (UTC)

• Delete With all due respect to Sjakkalle, limitation by gender, age, or nationality are not valid criteria for determining notability. If they were, male professional sports, leagues with a minimum age, and leagues with nationality requirements would not be notable either. Byebye, NBA! However, junior nationals are not the top level of play for chess (assuming that chess is governed by the sports notability guideline), and so players won't generally qualify for inclusion. Kate (talk) 18:03, 26 March 2011 (UTC)
• Point taken. Chess is a bit different from basketball and other sports, but I agree that "three restrictions=not notable" is not a test which should be used for professional sports teams! In chess, players of all ages, genders, and nationalities are generally allowed into the same tournaments. Even the most prestigious title of them all, the World Championship, has no gender or age restrictions. The point I was trying to make was that a championship restricted to Australian girls under a certain age excludes all the strongest players, and thus is not strong enough to confer notability. Sjakkalle (Check!) 09:47, 27 March 2011 (UTC)
• Delete - not sufficiently notable at this time. Bubba73 ^{You talkin' to me?} 00:23, 27 March 2011 (UTC)

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