Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Letlive

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The result was keep. Jujutacular ^talk 21:51, 12 April 2011 (UTC)

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Non-notable band. Although signed to Epitaph Records, they have not yet released their first album through that label, and currently only have plans to re-release an album release earlier on Tragic Hero Records. No citations can be found indicating that they have received any significant coverage. WikiDan61^ChatMe!_ReadMe!! 12:05, 21 March 2011 (UTC)

:Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. -- • Gene93k (talk) 23:11, 21 March 2011 (UTC)

:Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ron Ritzman (talk) 00:03, 28 March 2011 (UTC)

Delete per WP:CRYSTAL, WP:HAMMER, WP:MUSICBIO, WP:UPANDCOMING, and WP:GNG. It may be too early to have an article on this band. While their new CD has a name, there is no reliable source clarifying the songs or tracks that made the cut with the new studio. I'm not sure if they have made a national tour, or have made multiple recordings. We can't have an article on every up-and-coming band. If someone could find two or more good sources, then that would prove general notability. Get back to me if you find anything. Bearian (talk) 20:07, 28 March 2011 (UTC)

:Oh, I found [http://www.glasswerk.co.uk/features/national/12735/letlive+-+The+Sick,+Sick,+68+Billion this site] that has a track listing and tour dates in UK. Is that enough? Bearian (talk) 20:10, 28 March 2011 (UTC)

Keep - two more sources (both on WP:ALBUM/REVSIT): Sputnik staff album review (Fake History 4.5/5)[http://www.sputnikmusic.com/review/38625/Letlive-Fake-History/] & Rock Sound magazine (UK) group feature story ("Letlive are the most exciting band in the world").[http://www.rocksound.tv/features/article/stand-up-letlive-are-the-most-exciting-band-in-the-world-today] -Ojorojo (talk) 20:17, 2 April 2011 (UTC)
Keep - Album's just been re-released on Epitaph with bonus tracks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.175.139.78 (talk) 23:05, 3 April 2011 (UTC)

:Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ron Ritzman (talk) 00:30, 4 April 2011 (UTC)

Keep - While they may be "un-notable" in some places, the band has had significant coverage in UK media, especially in Metal Hammer Magazine [http://www.metalhammer.co.uk/?s=letlive]. Also, if you listen to Metal Hammer's Podcast on iTunes, you can hear a lot of discussion about the band. Them being on Epitaph shows how significant they are, and should stay. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.7.220.14 (talk) 19:03, 5 April 2011 (UTC)

: Comment WP:BAND requires that a band not only be signed to a major label, but that they have released 2 or more albums on a major label (not necessarily the same major label). The re-release of this band's first album on a second label doesn't really count as having released 2 or more albums, regardless of whether Epitaph Records is considered major or not. WikiDan61^ChatMe!_ReadMe!! 14:00, 12 April 2011 (UTC)

::Comment - WP:BAND lists 12 criteria, any one of which may establish notability. While the band may not meet #5 (two or more albums on a major label), they meet #1 (multiple reliable sources) and #4 (coverage of international tour) (all sources on WP:ALBUM/REVSIT): Rock Sound[http://www.rocksound.tv/features/article/stand-up-letlive-are-the-most-exciting-band-in-the-world-today][http://www.rocksound.tv/features/article/letlive-qa-i-want-people-to-have-a-human-experience][http://www.rocksound.tv/reviews/article/letlive-fake-history], Sputnikmusic[http://www.sputnikmusic.com/review/38625/Letlive-Fake-History/], Alternative Press[http://www.altpress.com/reviews/entry/letlive_-_fake_history/?amp], Allmusic[http://www.allmusic.com/artist/letlive-p664075/biography][http://www.allmusic.com/album/fake-history-r2142486/review]. -Ojorojo (talk) 16:35, 12 April 2011 (UTC)

::~~None of those are reliable sources.~~ Bearian (talk) 19:54, 12 April 2011 (UTC)

:::Comment Actually, I'd have to disagree with Bearian on that. As Ojorojo has pointed out, all of the sources are listed on WP:WikiProject Album as reliable sources, at least as far as critical reception is concerned. The criterion this particular Wikiproject uses is that of professionalism: the cited sites are all staffed by at least semi-professional journalists and all have an editorial staff. In the music business these days, online journalism is likely to be more relevant than print journalism. WikiDan61^ChatMe!_ReadMe!! 20:38, 12 April 2011 (UTC)

Oh, O.K. Change to keep per WP:HEY. Bearian (talk) 20:48, 12 April 2011 (UTC)

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