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Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Liam Deois

:The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep for now. General consensus seems to be that there's a good chance this could be well sourced, though some research is necessary due to the time period involved. This result should not be taken as a precedent against renominating this in a month or two if no such verifiable sources have been found. ~ mazca talk 22:28, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

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:{{la|Liam Deois}} ([{{fullurl:Liam Deois|wpReason={{urlencode: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Liam Deois}}&action=delete}} delete]) – (View AfD)(View log)

not clear how this person is notable. Lacks significant coverage in verifiable 3rd party sources, fails WP:BIO RadioFan (talk) 11:38, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

  • I removed the unremarkable person tag because I do not agree with the reason given. Deois was a well-known criminal in the area, and was a subject of local folklore long after his arrest. Furthermore, it demonstrates just how long the highwayman era survived in Ireland, giving some dimension to the times concerned. Fergananim (talk) 11:49, 8 June 2009 (UTC)
  • Keep for now at any rate. Sure it needs a couple more references (although the two that are there seem fine to be going on with), but the article was only created a few hours ago. We don't need to be that trigger-happy, it certainly shouldn't have been prodded after such a short time. Dylanfromthenorth (talk) 15:10, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

:*Thank you Dylan! Fergananim (talk) 08:44, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

  • Comment. I'm having difficulty finding any sources online[http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&safe=off&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aofficial&hs=qxk&num=100&q=%22Liam+Deois%22+OR+(%22Liam+Joyce%22+%2Bhighwayman)&btnG=Search&meta=][http://books.google.co.uk/books?hl=en&safe=off&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&hs=qxk&num=100&q=%22Liam%20Deois%22%20OR%20(%22Liam%20Joyce%22%20%2Bhighwayman)&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=wp][http://news.google.co.uk/archivesearch?um=1&ned=uk&hl=en&num=100&q=%22Liam+Deois%22+OR+(%22Liam+Joyce%22+%2Bhighwayman)&cf=all][http://scholar.google.co.uk/scholar?um=1&ned=uk&hl=en&num=100&q=%22Liam%20Deois%22%20OR%20(%22Liam%20Joyce%22%20%2Bhighwayman)&cf=all&sa=N&tab=ns], but I doubt that Internet usage was very high in this part of Ireland in the early 1800s, so that doesn't really prove anything. I note that the two books cited are both self-published[http://www.worldcat.org/oclc/42444458&referer=brief_results][http://www.worldcat.org/oclc/48208254&referer=brief_results]. It would be interesting to know whether those books themselves cite any other reliable sources, such as newspapers or previous books, or are they based on the poem and oral history? Phil Bridger (talk) 17:50, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

:Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so consensus may be reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ron Ritzman (talk) 00:02, 15 June 2009 (UTC)

:Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so consensus may be reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, –Juliancolton | Talk 15:39, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

  • Delete for lack of sources to establish notability.Dino Velvet 8MM (talk) 04:20, 23 June 2009 (UTC)
  • Keep on life support for a little while. Assuming someone would work on the article and provides ref from the 1800s, eg from the national library, and be prepared to make the sources available, e.g. upload to Commons, then keep. Without any WP:RS we cant keep articles, but for a 1800 person, the 7 days AfD horizon is too short. Power.corrupts (talk) 22:35, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

:The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.