Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of Discworld characters by region

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Most of the characters here seem pretty trivial to the Discworld series, with most characters that are actually important to the series being part of other pages (see the "See also" section) and the way this article is grouped ("by region") is an in-universe way of sorting the characters. Additionally, there are no sources which indicate that any of the characters, or the characters as a whole, are notable. While there is some leniency with lists, there still needs to be some indication that it passes Wikipedia's notability guidelines. Harry Blue5 (talk • contribs) 21:05, 2 May 2011 (UTC)

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• Delete- the Discworld articles on this encyclopedia already have enough plot-summary lists of characters grouped according to various criteria. How many different ways are there to chew the same cud? Reyk _YO! 21:18, 2 May 2011 (UTC)
• Question - Is there another "List of Discworld characters" page this could merge to, or is this the main list of Discworld characters? If there is another I'd say they could be merged, if this is the only one, I'd say it's worthy of keeping. Mathewignash (talk) 21:33, 2 May 2011 (UTC)
• Currently the Discworld series does not have one list, as such, but rather about ten of them, or one split across ten articles if you will. See for instance Rincewind#Supporting characters, Unseen University#Staff, Ankh-Morpork Assassins' Guild#Assassins featured in the books, Discworld gods, Ankh-Morpork City Watch#Members, Dwarfs (Discworld)#Notable dwarfs etc. There used to be a list, but I think Mobtown Mongrel split them up like this. Harry Blue5 (talk • contribs) 21:41, 2 May 2011 (UTC)
• Delete - The content of this list is already spread throughout other articles, but what intrigues me is that there are several articles about Discworld that contains few or NO references at all and they are all first-party related, it seems that all the contents created seems to be fancruft work. Eduemoni^↑talk↓ 22:37, 2 May 2011 (UTC)
• Keep, but strongly encourage rethinking of this organizational strategy. This appears to be a list of Discworld characters who don't fall into one of the more specific lists linked by the "See also" section - despite claims above, I'm not seeing any redundancy with the other Discworld character lists (if there are any, clearly they should be removed). This does not mean they're all trivial characters (for example, from my admittedly limited reading in this series it seems characters such as Dibbler appear frequently throughout the series, and others such as Adora Belle Dearheart are primary characters in the books they appear in); the reason they're getting dumped here is because they're normal humans that aren't in the City Watch, and so perhaps a rename to the more general List of Discworld characters would be more appropriate (as the current title suggests this will group all Discworld characters by region, which appears not to be the true intention). Otherwise, this is the standard character list found for hundreds of other series on Wikipedia, and while some cleanup is certainly needed that's not a reason to outright delete. BryanG (talk) 02:18, 3 May 2011 (UTC)
• Reply All the information on characters who are notable in this list can probably be found [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Discworld_characters&diff=399063787&oldid=398973492#Cut-Me-Own-Throat_Dibbler here]. The information is currently pulled out of this list, uncited. Harry Blue5 (talk • contribs) 06:23, 3 May 2011 (UTC)
• Discworld characters is currently a redirect, so no, it's not available somewhere else to somebody who doesn't know how to run through page history, i.e. most of our readers. BryanG (talk) 21:07, 3 May 2011 (UTC)
• It is available if you want to remake the list. Currently, this one shows no notability, is sorted in-universe, and has mostly trivial characters (Btw, I don't think Adore is a primary character). It'd be easier to delete this list and restore the one that actually has the contribution's sorted. And again, this list still shows no notability, in its current state it still should be deleted (or maybe redirected somewhere, at the least). Harry Blue5 (talk • contribs) 22:01, 3 May 2011 (UTC)

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• Delete, notable characters should get their own articles and minor characters should be mentioned in a "Characters" section of the book(s) they appear in. This is an unsupportable list with no indication that the individual characters are notable. Axem Titanium (talk) 06:31, 4 May 2011 (UTC)
• Rename to Minor characters in Discworld, remove any who overlap the other lists, and organize alphabetically instead of by region. Ma^t_chups 02:01, 9 May 2011 (UTC)
• Delete The article is an unneeded content fork that doesn't meet the general notability guideline by itself. I do not see how such a detailed plot-only description of a fictional work could possible meet the criteria of appropriate topics for lists, particularly because Wikipedia is not an indiscriminate collection of information or a directory. Jfgslo (talk) 23:07, 9 May 2011 (UTC)
• Delete - plot only. --Anthem of joy (talk) 09:53, 10 May 2011 (UTC)

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