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Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of Indian prime ministerial firsts

:The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete‎__EXPECTED_UNCONNECTED_PAGE__. The NLIST and NOTTRIVIA arguments have not been meaningfully rebutted. Extraordinary Writ (talk) 09:09, 24 July 2024 (UTC)

=[[:List of Indian prime ministerial firsts]]=

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WP:NOTTRIVIA, does not meet WP:LISTN. Along the same lines as Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of United States vice presidential firsts. signed, Rosguill talk 13:47, 16 July 2024 (UTC)

:Delete per lack of capacity for reasonable WP:SELCRIT. On this day, the Indian prime minister became the first in history to eat a donut which contained a jam filling and brown sprinkles before 9am on the 2nd day of february while wearing a yellow turban... BrigadierG (talk) 21:05, 16 July 2024 (UTC)

::Going with your logic shouldn't we just delete List of Mexican presidential firsts, List of Philippine presidential firsts, and List of United States presidential firsts as well? — Hemant Dabral (📞 • ✒) 01:42, 17 July 2024 (UTC)

:::Yes, probably. BrigadierG (talk) 20:11, 17 July 2024 (UTC)

::::Then move them to articles for deletion as well. — Hemant Dabral (📞 • ✒) 12:43, 21 July 2024 (UTC)

:Keep, there is a significant coverage about the Indian prime ministerial firsts. — Hemant Dabral (📞 • ✒) 01:35, 17 July 2024 (UTC)

::Which sources do you have in mind? signed, Rosguill talk 12:09, 17 July 2024 (UTC)

:::Just run a search and you'll find out. — Hemant Dabral (📞 • ✒) 12:41, 21 July 2024 (UTC)

::::You changed this article on your will.

::::You need to make sure you CITE YOUR SOURCES and make sure your English is professional and encyclopedic.

::::Thanks, GujaratiHistoryinDNA (talk) 17:21, 22 July 2024 (UTC)

::::{{u|Hemant Dabral}}, I have specifically performed a WP:BEFORE as expected to when nominating this article. I did not find anything discussing the category of "Indian prime ministerial firsts" in depth, just examples of individual instances being described as a prime ministerial first. Absent any evidence to the contrary, I presume that the sources you are thinking of fall into the latter category, which is not enough to meet WP:LISTN. signed, Rosguill talk 17:31, 22 July 2024 (UTC)

:::::Is it possible to keep those few material related to individual instances and remove the rest, instead of deleting the whole article? Because this article has potential to be developed properly. — Hemant Dabral (📞 • ✒) 07:42, 23 July 2024 (UTC)

  • Delete for WP:NOTTRIVIA. We should also likely delete the other "Presidential Firsts" list articles for rhe same reason. CoconutOctopus talk 06:51, 17 July 2024 (UTC)

:Keep: Purely going by the fact that List of United States presidential firsts exists and the article is on similar lines to that. Xoocit (talk) 08:46, 17 July 2024 (UTC)

::That article should likely also be deleted, although it is possible that coverage exists to meet WP:LISTN there so it would require patiently working through its mountain of sources first. WP:OSE signed, Rosguill talk 12:08, 17 July 2024 (UTC)

::WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS. Curbon7 (talk) 21:54, 17 July 2024 (UTC)

  • I'm leaning keep given the fact these exist elsewhere, but I can't quickly find a source which would get this past WP:LISTN (covering several firsts at once as opposed to just being a trivia section). SportingFlyer T·C 10:28, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
  • Delete per WP:LISTN. There are practically an infinite number of unnotable firsts. First PM to visit Canada??? What next? First left-handed PM? First to catch a disease in office? First to play a video game? Clarityfiend (talk) 13:28, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
  • :These are just comical straw man arguments you are giving, I dont know about Canada but an Indian prime minister's visit to Israel is significant enough to highlight, given the fact that previous governments had a policy to not recognise Israel in favour of their pro-Palestine policy. This was a significant shift in the foreign policy. — Hemant Dabral (📞 • ✒) 12:59, 21 July 2024 (UTC)
  • Delete. The List of Indian prime ministerial firsts fails encyclopedic merit without contextual information. RangersRus (talk) 22:37, 17 July 2024 (UTC)

:Keep: Based on the article, I feel there are several important and key facts that are noteworthy regarding Prime Ministers of India; however, I do see some uncited firsts listed and I feel the introductory paragraph is not Wikipedia based. Therefore, I would say keep the article, but make sure that the statements are not too specific, and as obvious, they are cited with sources. — Preceding unsigned comment added by HockeyFanNHL (talk • contribs) 23:18, 21 July 2024 (UTC)

:Keep: This article originally was mine. But another user merged it and changed it on their will.

I suggest to restore my version of the article. I cited sourced, and made everything under Wikipedia Policies. Thank you.— Preceding unsigned comment added by GujaratiHistoryinDNA (talk • contribs)

::Contrary to these assertions, the prior version of the article (I presume Special:PermaLink/1218109595 corresponds to the juncture GHDNA is referring to) does not address the failure to meet WP:LISTN. signed, Rosguill talk 17:34, 22 July 2024 (UTC)

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:The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.