Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of hospitals in Indonesia

:The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. Fermi paradox: If there are reliable sources, where are they? If someone comes up with those sources, I will be happy to work with them on my talk page. King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ 00:06, 12 July 2009 (UTC)

=[[List of hospitals in Indonesia]]=

:{{la|List of hospitals in Indonesia}} ([{{fullurl:List of hospitals in Indonesia|wpReason={{urlencode: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of hospitals in Indonesia}}&action=delete}} delete]) – (View AfD)(View log)

Indiscriminate list as per WP:NOT#DIR Davidelit (talk) 15:19, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

:Delete as per talk page of article (or re-naming as List of hospitals in Aceh if reasonable WP:RS can be found to support such a list)- it is a non notable list of hospitals in Aceh and does not provide any context of the health system in Indonesia or discriminate or describe the the different private hosptials and government hospitals - the only hospitals with articles in the Indonesian project (ie categorised as hospitals in Indonesia) are 2 private hospitals in Yogyakarta - hardly a representative collection of articles to link from at all. Better served by a creation of separate lists or articles by Island (the List of hospitals in Bali could serve as a good example if it had either WP:RS or WP:V - of which it has neither Satu Suro 15:29, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Indonesia-related deletion discussions. —Satu Suro 15:35, 26 June 2009 (UTC)
Note: This debate has been included in the list of Lists-related deletion discussions. -- Tavix | Talk 16:17, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

Keep - The concept of hospitals in a given area of sufficient size is notable (and Wikipedia has many such lists). Individual hospitals don't have to be notable to appear on a list of hospitals. The list is not indiscriminate because it a well-defined scope. I do understand that the list is very incomplete as it currently stands, but that is a problem that can be fixed through editing. I wouldn't object to the list being renamed to reflect the current content, "List of hospitals in Aceh", but editing the list to include hospitals form other areas of the country is the preferable solution in my opinion. --ThaddeusB (talk) 17:00, 26 June 2009 (UTC)
Comment - Point taken, but Wikipedia:Other stuff exists is a good guide here Davidelit (talk) 17:21, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

::Correct, but I am not arguing for inclusion based on the other stuff. I am arguing for inclusion based on the notability of such list and merely pointing out the list lists as an aside. --ThaddeusB (talk) 17:26, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Medicine-related deletion discussions. -- TexasAndroid (talk) 17:33, 26 June 2009 (UTC)
Comment many lists in the Indonesian projects have been 'dropped in' by editors never seen again - and as a consequence they are always problematic - I would say that 'List of hospitals in Indonesia' becomes either a disambig or redirect - and that List of Hospitals in Aceh, or Bali or wherever are kept in the loop only if reliable sources are utilised - otherwise I believe they should be up for AFD - I do not think that such lists have any right to exist - there is nothing to check against - if there has been no attempt at verification by WP:RS - they are open to random and false information otherwise Satu Suro 05:53, 27 June 2009 (UTC)
Delete. Provides no encyclopedic information. When I need a hospital in Indonesia, I won't be consulting wikipedia. If we do get articles on Indonesian hospitals, then we use categories instead.--Merbabu (talk) 07:20, 27 June 2009 (UTC)

:Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so consensus may be reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Sandstein 06:55, 4 July 2009 (UTC){{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of hospitals in Indonesia||}}

Delete per Merbabu, because we can always use categories if needed.--The Legendary Sky Attacker 10:00, 4 July 2009 (UTC)
Move to List of hospitals in Aceh. Verifiable info; reasonable notability. - Altenmann >t 15:36, 4 July 2009 (UTC)

:The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.